Value Limitation on Hyperion Planning Supporting Detail

Hi All,
Is there a way how to set the limitation on Supporting Detail ? I try to input the 9.500.000.000 as the value in my Supporting Detail but it always changes to 9.223.372.036.854776, it's like the total in the Supporting Detail can't be more than 9.223.372.036.854776.
I'm using Planning 11.1.2.2.304 anyway
Really appreciate if anyone can help me
Thanks !

If you look at the planning table the value is defined as Float, but however the number you are looking at is the max of Long (not sure why it is, however I think it has to deal with 16 significant digit rule)
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/constant-values.html#java.lang.Integer.MAX_VALUE
Regards
Celvin

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Question Summary*: Within Excel, using VBA, is it possible to control the "*_Supporting Details_*" functionality (read / add / delete children, paste values command)?
Detail*:
--- Within Excel, using VBA, I am able to control the POV parameters using something like this:
X = HypSetPOV("Sheet1", "Entity#" & theE, "Project#" & theP)
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--- Request: I have a pre-completed Excel worksheet with all the details. I want to be able to read / add / delete children within a specific line item (SUPPORTING DETAILS) using VBA.
Can someone provide a specific example?
I've tried using HypGetChildren, but is this the wrong method? From documentation, this method appears to be associated with member children, not* SUPPORTING DETAILS.
I'm using this for Supporting Details nodes (children and siblings) --- it is required that I enter "Supporting Details" children (can have anywhere from 1 to 20 children) for this GL expense item (row).
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Oracle Hyperion Smartview Version = _9.3.1.5.0.025_
MS Excel Version = _2003 (Service Pack 3)_
Declarations Made = _\SmartView\bin\smartview.bas_ (successfully able to use - call - these methods and functions)
Form Structure Row = One GL Expense Account (called "Meals Expense")
Form Structure Column = Twelve --- with each representing a month (Jan, Feb, Mar...)
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Edited by: 888548 on Sep 29, 2011 8:36 AM
Edited by: 888548 on Sep 29, 2011 8:39 AM

Dear Mike,
Thanks so much for your quick response -- this helps a lot.
Follow-Up Question: Could a modified request be accomplished (as follows)?
Modified Request*: Rather than programatically reading / deleting child nodes within the Supporting Details form, is there a way to programatically add a child node and paste values within the Supporting Details form in the same fashion that I'm able to load / show the Supporting Details form.
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Click on the Add Child button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/AddChild").Execute*
Click on the Paste Values button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/PasteValues").Execute*
Click on the OK button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/OK").Execute*
Thanks for your help and consideration.

How to copy and paste from excel in Hyperion Planning 11.1.2.2 using the Mozilla 17 as my browser?

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I'm using Hyperion Planning 11.1.2.2.300 and Mozilla 17 as my web browser, and I'm trying to paste a number from excel directly into a cell in a data form in Hyperion.
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We deleted around 4000 members from our planning application and later realised that the few members have budget values tagged to them and also supporting details are included for few of the members. Now we would like to bring back those members to our application. Could you please suggest the best method to bring back those members and the associated supporting details. We donot want to restore the entire the entire application. Is there a way to restore only that particular dimension and its members and the supporting details associated with them. If yes, could anyone of you let me know the process. Our relational DB is SQL 2005.
Request your help for the closure
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Assuming you have a backup of your SQL database somewhere (this would be the Planning repository), the following code will extract Supporting Detail:
Supporting Detail
SELECT
     "Plan Type" = P.TYPE_NAME,
     "Scenario" = O1.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Account" = O2.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Entity" = O3.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Month" = O4.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Version" = O5.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Year" = O6.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Activities" = O7.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Employee" = O8.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Value" = I.VALUE,
     "Position" = I.POSITION,
     "Generation" = I.GENERATION,
     "Operator" = I.OPERATOR,
     "SD" = I.LABEL
FROM HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL D
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          ON D.PLAN_TYPE = P.PLAN_TYPE
     INNER JOIN HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM I
          ON D.DETAIL_ID = I.DETAIL_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O1
          ON D.DIM1 = O1.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O2
          ON D.DIM2 = O2.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O3
          ON D.DIM3 = O3.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O4
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     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O5
          ON D.DIM5 = O5.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O6
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     LEFT OUTER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O7
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     LEFT OUTER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O8
          ON D.DIM8 = O8.OBJECT_IDYou'll want to modify it a bit to get it to work with your dimensions -- this is from an old project of mine.
I have never tried to write Supporting Detail back in -- I know it has been done, just not by me. I would tread very carefully and only do it on a test database and be really, really, really sure you've got everything working just so. You could easily blow up your data.
Another approach might be to restore that Planning app backup (making sure you made a backup of the current app), and then use LCM to export out Supporting detail, and then suck it back into the app that no longer has it.
^^^I like that idea a lot more even if it is a bit more tedious.
With either approach, you are going to have to sync the Essbase data to the SD data -- hopefully you have a good Essbase backup as well.
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http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

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We have a lot of supporting details in excel rows that we want to load into one cell in Planning Web form 11.1.1.3.
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You can reverse the process of how you exported the information using SQL to import the new information.
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