Vandor crdit memo, subsequent debit memo and subsequent crdit memo

Hi,
what is the difference between subsequent debit, credit and credit memo in MIRO transaction.
In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
in this case what document should i use i.e crdit memo, subsequent credit memo or subsequent debit memo??
plz suggest

Hi,
Difference between Credit memo and subsequent debits/credits
Subsequent Debits/Credits are used in cases where the quantity is in the original invoice is to remain the same.
Example:
PO 10 - $10
GR 10 - $10
LIV 10 - $11 (Logistics Invoice Verification)
The vendor invoice is more than that in the Purchase Order.
In order to correct, the Vendor may send in another invoice for the Increased amount
or a credit memo for the reduce amount.
If you approve of the price increase,
post the subsequent invoice received as a Subsequent Debit Invoice.
If it is a credit memo that has been received for reducing $1 of invoice price,
then post the credit memo as Subsequent Credit.
This would retain the quantity but reduce the amount.
Subsequent Debit/Credit is for the case when the credit is not for the full amount
eg. if the Vendor decided to credit & only the $1 overcharged.
Credit memo is for the credit of the full amount and value.
Thanks
Kalyankumar

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Subsequent debit, credit and credit memo

Hi,
what is the difference between subsequent debit, credit and credit memo in MIRO transaction.
In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
in this case what document should i use i.e crdit memo, subsequent credit memo or subsequent debit memo??
plz suggest

Hi
You need to use a credit memo.
Subsequent debit is used if you have already invoiced
You have already received an invoice from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be taken into account, however, the invoice quantity remains the same.
Subsequent credit is used if you already have done a credit memo on the PO
You have already received a credit memo from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be credited to your company, however, the credit memo quantity remains the same.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

Regarding Subsequent debit,credit and cdedit memos

Hello Gurus,
Could any body explain the above said subject and when this scenario will be used pls give some examples.
regards
rk

Hi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik

Subsequent debit and Credit in MRIO

Hi,
I know the Invocie and credit memo in MIRO when we are posting the invocie we have to use the invocie option and in case we return the material we can use the credit memo, I wan tto know when we have to use subsequent debit / credit what its exact use.
regards,
zafar

Hi,
Subsequent debit and Credit are executed after invoice verification. When an additional invoice or credit memo is received for a transaction that has already been invoiced, this is known as a subsequent debit/credit. First let me clarify the terms Subsequent debit /Credit and credit memo.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference. Please refer below link for better clarity.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice. Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts. Hope this will resolve your issue. Thanking you

Debit note - Subsequent debit

Dear all
1.what is the difference between debit note and subsequent debit
2.credit note and subsequent credit
3.credit memo
Please guide me with a simple example

Hi,
1. A transaction that reduces Amounts Receivable from a customer is a credit memo. For eg. The customer could return damaged goods. A debit memo is a transaction that reduces Amounts Payable to a vendor because, you send damaged goods back to your vendor.
2. Credit memo request is a sales document used in complaints processing to request a credit memo for a customer. If the price calculated for the customer is too high, for example, because the wrong scale prices were used or a discount was forgotten, you can create a credit memo request. The credit memo request is blocked for further processing so that it can be checked. If the request is approved, you can remove the block. The system uses the credit memo request to create a credit memo.
You can use credit memos in Sales and Distribution (SD) for assigning credit memo requests to the open invoices and in Financial Accounting (FI) for assigning credit memos and payments to the open invoices and carry out clearing with them. If you use both Financial Accounting (FI) and Sales and Distribution (SD), there is a 1:1 relationship between the credit memo request and the credit memo item posted in Financial Accounting (FI). As soon as you bill the credit memo request together with other sales orders, or distribute the items of one credit memo request to several billing documents, the assignment is no longer valid and the system will not process it.
For credit memos, credit memo requests, and payments, you have the following assignment options:
- Assignment to a single invoice
- Assignment of a partial amount to an invoice
- Assignment to several invoices
When you post credit memos, the payment programme processes them automatically. If the credit memo is specifically related to a particular open invoice item, the payment program automatically attempts to offset the credit memo against the open item. If it is not possible to completely offset the credit memo against an invoice, you can post a debit memo to the vendor, who is to reimburse the amount. Then you can apply a multilevel dunning program.
3. Debit memo request is a sales document used in complaints processing to request a debit memo for a customer. If the prices calculated for the customer were too low, for example, calculated with the wrong scaled prices, you can create a debit memo request. The debit memo request can be blocked so that it can be checked. When it has been approved, you can remove the block. It is like a standard order. The system uses the debit memo request to create a debit memo
Regards,
Deepak.

Posting subsequent debit without reference to PO

Hi Guru,
Can someone advise me on how SAP can handle this scenario?
1) PO created
2) GR
3) Invoice received.
4) Email received that there is a price increase for this material. No PO reference is given as this is an intercompany purchase
How do i pay the vendor and at the same time adjust the inventory value only(quantity not adjusted) in this case?
Initially, I was thinking of doing the subsequent debit. However, subsequent debit needs PO reference or some documents reference which I don't have.
Thanks in advance on the help.
Regards,
Zhulk

do you really pay just on email notifications?
Isn't it a legal requirment to receive a debit note?
Further ask your vendor (especially if it is an internal vendor it should be easy) for which POs the price increase takes place.
Further you can search for POs with various transactions in SAP.

Price check during subsequent debit & credit

Hi experts,
My client wants a scenario which is enumerated below.
The client requirement is to have a tolerance level check during miro as well as subsequent debit & credit.
For the miro i have taken tolerance key PP: price variance with error message 083 & it is working fine for percenatge toleranace check i.e if the PO is made for 10 rs/unit & i have set upper & lower limit of tolerance of 10% system will not allow to do miro at price of more than 11 rs/unit or less than 9 rs/unit.
The problem i am facing is to activate the same check at the time of subsequent debit & credit i.e if somebody does a miro of 10 rs/unit & then does a subsequent debit to pay another 2 rs to the vendor the system is not giving an error message but actually the vendor is getting 12 rs/unit which is against norm. How do we check this thing so that system does not allow the same.
waiting for reply.

Hi all,
There is a new development. The error message is getting triggered for subsequent debit. That means if i have set a tolerance level of 10%,& initially received the invoice at a 10 rs/unit which is the PO price then system will not allow to do a subsequent debit for another 2 rs/unit ( by effectively making the price 12 rs/unit) as it falls outside the tolerance limit by throwing an error message.
But same error message is not getting effected for subsequent credit i.e after receiving the invoice for 10 rs/unit if i do a subsequent credit for 2 rs/unit then it is falling outside set tolearnce limit of +-10% ( by effectively making the price 8 rs/unit) but the system is not triggering any message.
Any idea whether it is a SAP default, that the message determination will trigger only for subsequent debit & not for subsequent credit.
waitng for reply.

Credit memo and Subsequent Credit/Debit Scenarios

Hi All,
I have to present all the invoicing scenarios to the client. These also include credit memo and subsequent credit/debit.
Can someone please give me some examples of these. What is the meaning,how to handle,how do these arise.I will have to run these for them on screen.Please can you help me out with these.
Regards,
V S

Hello,
Subsequent Debit and Credits
After an Invoice is successfully posted and the transaction is completed, Vendor approaches with additional amount invoice or correction in Invoice.You would like to post this additional invoice with reference to the original PO and item. Subsequent Debit / Credit functionality allows you to capture this difference without canceling original invoice.
Please check this link
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/a8/b99890452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Regards,
Shailesh

Subsequent debit, subsequent credit and credit memo?

Dear Gurus,
Kindly explain subsequent debit, subsequent credit and credit memo with one simple example..pls..
Thanks..

Hi,
Subsequent Debits/Credits are used in cases where the quantity is in the original invoice is to remain the same. For eg.
PO 10 - $10
Gr 10 - $10
LIV 10 - $11 (Logistics Invoice Verification)
The vendor invoice is more than that in the Purchase Order. In order to correct, the Vendor may send in another invoice for
the Increased amount or a credit memo for the increased amount.
If you approve of the price increase, post the subsequent invoice received as a Subsequent Debit/Credit Invoice.
If it is a credit memo that has been received, then post the credit memo as Subsequent Debit/Credit.
This would retain the quantity but reduce the amount.
Subsequent Debit/Credit is for the case when the credit is not for the full amount eg. if the Vendor decided to credit
only the $1 overcharged.
Credit memo is for the credit of the full amount and value.
Credit Memo u2013 A credit memo is received from a vendor if you were overcharged on a previous invoice. It is processed as a reversal of a previous invoice on a quantity and value basis referencing a Purchase Order. In the same way the system assumes a corresponding goods receipt was posted for the original invoice, the system assumes a credit memo is linked to the reversal of a goods receipt. You must change the transaction from Invoice to Credit memo.
Subsequent Credit u2013 You receive a credit memo from a vendor decreasing the total invoiced value on a previous invoice, not the total invoiced quantity. You must change the transaction from Invoice to Subsequent credit. It is a reduction of value but not quantity by the amount of the credit memo.
Subsequent Debit u2013 You receive an additional invoice from a vendor because you were undercharged, increasing the total invoiced value, not the total invoiced quantity. You must change the transaction from Invoice to Subsequent debit. It is processed as an increase in value but not the quantity by the amount of the additional invoice.
Hope it helps,
Swapnil

Credit memo, subsequent debit and subsequent credit

Hi,
We have recently started using credit memo, subsequent debit and subsequent credit in SAP.
However, when ever user is taking print of this documents system is still showing as invoice verification note only
We want to differentiate this documents with other document types. could u plz explain me the config settings for this doc types provided by standard SAP.

Transaction OBA7, define document types which you require. Then, SPRO -> AR/AP -> Business transactions -> Outgoing invoices, credit memos -> Outgoing Invoices/Credit Memos - Enjoy -> Define Document Types for Enjoy Transactions. There you can define that new document types are default for process you want
regards

Credit memo and subsequent GL account

Dear All,
I would like to clarify 3 point below.
when i do credit memo on full quantity, the double entry is hitting vendor and GRC account.
when i do credit memo on part quantity, the double entry hitting vendor GRC and stock account also.
when i do subsequent debit or credit, double entry hitting vendor and stock account.
1) May I know why credit memo, full quantity only hit GRC whereas part quantity hit GRC and stock?
2) May i know why subsequent debit/credit hitting stock account only?
3) credit memo must have to create return PO? without return PO can?
Thanks

Hi
credit memos and subsequent credits can be used to adjust the amount due to the vendor.
we usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you where overcharged.
as in case of invoice .creit memo refer to purchase orders or good receipt
when you post credit memo,the total invoice quantity in the po history is reduced by the credit memo quantity.the maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quanitty that has alredy ben invoiced.
During Credit Memo, It is making same accounting entires as it makes during Invoice posting
Regards
kailas ugale

Credit memo and subsequent credit

Can anybody tell what is the difference between a Credit memo and subsequent credit memo.
I am finding the impact of both on the PO as same.

Hi,
The difference betwen them is that a credit memo quantity and amount are
affected but in subsequent credit only the amount is affected nor quantity.
For example.
You have in your po history.
GR    amount quantity
x        10          10
IR (normal invoice)
x       10           10
Credit memo
x      5              5
Now you have invoice 5 amount 5 quantity
if you made a subsequent for per example
amount 5
in your po history you have pending
0 amount an 5 quantity
This quantity you must regularize with transaction MR11
Transaction mr11 only regularize quantities but not amounts,so for this is used
subsequent credit/debit.
I hope my explanation helps you now to understand the differences.
Best regards.
Antonio.

Difference between Credit memo and subsequent credit

All SAP Gurus,
In MIRO, what is the difference between Credit memo and subsequent credit?
Regards,

Difference between Credit memo and subsequent debits/credits
Subsequent Debits/Credits are used in cases where the quantity is in the original invoice is to remain the same. For eg.
PO 10 - $10
Gr 10 - $10
LIV 10 - $11 (Logistics Invoice Verification)
The vendor invoice is more than that in the Purchase Order. In order to correct, the Vendor may send in another invoice for
the Increased amount or a credit memo for the increased amount.
If you approve of the price increase, post the subsequent invoice received as a Subsequent Debit/Credit Invoice.
If it is a credit memo that has been received, then post the credit memo as Subsequent Debit/Credit.
This would retain the quantity but reduce the amount.
Subsequent Debit/Credit is for the case when the credit is not for the full amount eg. if the Vendor decided to credit
only the $1 overcharged.
Credit memo is for the credit of the full amount and value.

Subsequent delivery and subsequent debit

Dear All,
material type: NLAG
account assignemnt (PO): cost center, non valuated GR
Scenario:
1. GR (MIGO) - material_document1, qty 100
2. IR (MIRO) - invoice1 for material_document1, qty 100
> vendor makes correction because qty is more or less than the original
3. GR (MIGO) - material document2 - qty 20 (sum qty for PO item is 120)
4. IR (MIRO) - subsequent_debit1 for 20 pcs
These connections / links should exist:
Material_document1 - invoice1
Material_docuemt2 - subsequent_debit1
My question
How can I solve this? Is it posible to book the subsequent debit with reference to material_docuement2?
If I create the subsequent invoice it is valid only for material_document1 EVEN IF I do material_document2 as SUBSEQUENT DELIVERY in MIGO (in this case the two material documents are connected). SAP expects an additional invoice for material_document2 (but it is linked to material_docuement1!).
In my opinion it cannot be solved since the debit/credit memo refers to the "original" material document (1) and invoice (1).
Thanks,
Csaba
My question was a little bit incoherent...
I wanted SAP to suggest the to-be-credited qty&value automatically in case of returns to vendor - but it's not possible in standard system as per my best knowledge .
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 PM

Hi Bala krishnan,
when there is a price difference this entry would takes place. while reversing the same should be reversed, in your case the system is posting to another account.
please check the account key against the wrong line item ( this you can see with the help of changing layout), then goto OBYC and check the gl accounts assigned against that. To check either it is right or wrong compare with the standard/default company codes settings i.e 0001 co.cd.
Thanks & Regards,
Shashi Kanth.

Miro debit/credit note and subsequent debit/credit

Dear all,
May I know under what circumstances we use debit/credit note and
under what circumstances we use subsequent debit/credit
Need advice.
Thanks

Hi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik

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