Variable Interest Rate Instrument scenario
Dear All,
Is it possible to create an Interest Rate Instrument with variable interest rate which is calculated and adjusted monthly but interest amount is paid quarterly.
As per my understanding creating Interest Rate Instrument with Variable Interest Rate and which is adjusted monthly is not a problem. But if we do that the system calculates interest monthly and tries to post it monthly and also creates payment Request for each monthly cash flow.
This is the issue we want the system to calculate the interest monthly and also want that monthly accruals are calculated correctly but we want the interest to be paid quarterly and not monthly.
Request your thoughts on this kind of scenario.
Thank You
Regards
Sachin
Hi,
In your IRI instrument, maintain the interest condition to have a quarterly payout. In the structure tab, click on the conditions and then click on interest rate adjustment condition. In that you can specify the interest rate condition item to adjust to monthly update. Thus you can perform interest rate adjustments on a monthly basis and have the interest payout on a quarterly basis.
Regards,
Ravi
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2.Is possible to used a partial disbursement? For example,
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