% Variance Calculation Headache! Part Deux
Hi EveryoneThanks to everyone who posted on the original thread. For some reason I couldn't add any more posts! (don't know why).Got around the aggregation problem through the cost centre hierarchy using the following calc script...SET UPDATECALC OFF; "Ave Occ %"= Occupancy % Availablebeds;All was smiles, until I looked at the time dimension! It now aggregates the % through the months.Works fine in the Time Dimension with a Dynamic 2-Pass formula of...Occupancy%Availablebeds;Anyone know how to combine the 2!Have a great weekendTaMarkPS A big thank you to EssbaseBird, your a Startlet! ;o)
Gary's suggestions is pretty much what I'd suggest ...If not, any dynamic calcs in your time dimension? or something which is changing the order of the calc on the retrieve?
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Gurus,
How do we calculate Product variance?
What is the procedure / process?
Where can the effect be seen?
Edited by: Bhatia on Oct 15, 2008 6:44 PMHi,
Variance Calculation
As long the production order is not fully delivered or flagged Technical Complete the remaining order balance is treated as WIP. Otherwise the order balance shows up in variance calculation.
If a lot-based product-controlling WIP, is valuated at actual costs. The WIP is calculated as the difference between the debit and credit of an order as long as the order does not have the status DLV (delivered).
In lot-based product controlling the variances are not calculated until the order has the status DLV (finally delivered) or TECO (technically completed). This means that at the time the order has reached this status, the system no longer interprets the difference between the debit and the credit as work in process but as a variance. In lot-based product controlling orders never have work in process and variances at the same time.
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production/process order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
In this way you can find out which variances occurred between the value of the delivery and the actual costs and you can find the reason for the posting to the price difference account for materials with standard price control.
Variances from production (target version 1)
Variance calculation compares the actual costs incurred for the production order with the target costs for the production order and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variances occurred between the time the production order was created and the end of the production process.
Variances from planning (target version 2):
Variance calculation compares the planned costs for the production order with the target costs according to the standard cost estimate for the finished material, and assigns the individual variances to variance categories. The target costs are calculated using the quantity delivered for the order.
This enables variance calculation to find out which variance occurred between the time the standard cost estimate was created and the time the production order was created.
Variance categories:
The system assigns every variance to a variance category. The variance category indicates the cause of the variance (such as price change, lot-size variance). Variances are updated to the information system and passed on to Profitability Analysis according to variance category.
You differentiate between variance categories on the input side and on the output side:
u2022 Variances that occur because of goods issues, internal activity allocations, overhead and G/L account postings are displayed on the input side. Price variances, quantity variances, resource-usage variances and input variances are displayed on the input side.
u2022 Variances that occur because too little or too much of the planned order quantity were delivered, or because the delivered quantity was valuated differently are displayed on the output side.
Variances on the output side occur when you deliver using a price that differs from that found by dividing the target costs and the delivered quantity. If you deliver using the standard price, a variance can occur when the order lot size differs from the costing lot size. This is displayed as a lot-size variance.
For config
3.1.4.2 Variances & Settlement
Variance Calculation determines differences between the actual costs incurred on a production order and the standard costs of the material produced. Variances are calculated not at once, but for different variance categories. The variances computed are then transferred to CO-PA.
3.1.4.2.1 Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
Use
The Variance Key is part of the order header and controls variance calculation. The system selects the value set by this step as default value when a material master is created. From the material master the variance key then is transferred to the order when an order for the material is created.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKVW
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation -> Define Default Variance Keys for Plants
2. Make the following entries:
Plant Variance Key
BP01 000001
BP02 000001
BP03 000001
BP0X 000001
3.1.4.2.2 Define Target Cost Versions
Use
The target cost version controls various parameters related to calculation of target costs in variance calculation. In variance calculation, target costs are needed as a comparison to the actual costs incurred.
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code OKV6
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period End Closing Variance Calculation Define Target Cost Versions
2. Choose New entries and enter the following values or copy from default settings of CoArea 0001 to BP01:
CoArea TgtCostVsn Text Variance Variant Control Cost Target Cost
BP01 0 Target Costs for Total Variances 001 Actual Costs Current Std cost Est
BP01 1 Target costs for production variances 001 Actual Costs Plan Costs / Preliminary Cost Estimate
BP01 2 Target costs for planning variances 001 Plan Costs Current Std cost Est
3.1.4.2.3 Create Settlement Profile
Use
The settlement profile controls various parameters related to settlement.
Prerequisites
Allocation Structure
Procedure
1. Access the activity using one of the following navigation options:
Transaction Code SPRO
IMG Menu Controlling Product Cost Controlling Cost Object Controlling Product Cost by Order Period-End Closing Settlement Create Settlement Profile
2. Choose New Entries and enter header data. Then for each new entry choose Details and enter remaining data.
3. Overview of data records:
Profile Text
YGPI00 BP Process Order w/o CO-PA
YGPP00 BP Production Order w/o CO-PA
YGPI00 YGPP00
Actual costs/costs of sales
To be settled in full X X
Can be settled
Not for settlement
Default Values
Allocation Structure A1 A1
Source Structure
PA Transfer Struct.
Default object Type
Indicators
100% Validation X X
%-Settlement X X
Equivalence Nou2019s X X
Amount Settlement
Var. to co. bsd. PA
Valid receivers
G/L account N N
Cost center O O
Order O O
WBS Element O O
Fixed asset N N
Material O O
Network N N
Profit. Segment N N
Sales order O O
Cost objects O O
Order item O O
Business proc. N N
Real est. object N N
Other parameters
Document type SA SA
Max.no.dist.rls 3 3
Residence time 3 3
You have to assign Variance Key in material master for semi-finished and Finished goods in costing 1 tab also.
To Execute
KKS1-Collective Variance calculation
KKS2-Individual Variance calculation
CO88-Collective settlement
KO88-Individual settlement
Thanks,
Rau -
Actual cost is not seen in the variance calculation KKS2
Hi
I did variance calculation of a Production order ( after telco) . Its a co - product. The target cost , actual cost and allocated cost fields are present after execution. Now the actual cost field is blank and so the variance is not correct.
Pl advise on why the actual cost field is not populated with the cost.
Thanks
kamalaHi
KOB1 shows the actual cost . I do TECO for the PO and calculate Variance for co-product material, and the actual cost is showing at zero. But then i do settlement KO88, and the variance amount gets posted CORRECTLY and FI document is generated.
So why is the ACTUAL COST field ' ZERO' in KKS2, but KO88 settlement shows the variance amount.
It there some different logic to do variance calculation for PO involving main product which have co-products in it.
Thanks for any inputs
kamala -
Production variances calculation when using assessment to PP orders
Hi,
I managed to activate assessment to Production orders in BS12.
I activated business transactiun RKIU for PP orders object.
Now it's possible to allocate OH costs from Cost centers to production orders.
However, I have some problem of other nature.
When I do the standard price calculation - the Overhead costs from Production Departament CC are calculated as % overhead using costing sheet. It is done by cost element with cost element ctg 41.
The actual OH costs from Cost centers are allocated using assessment. Other cost elements with cost element category 42 are being used here.
How will the system calculate production variances in this case?
Do u think it is possible to match these two different cost elements?
Will this CE with 41 ctg be considered during variances calculation and if yes - which variance category will it be.
I am uncertain about that, cause in normal cases - activitity CE or materials consumption CE are the same in actual and target. In my case overhead CE are different in actual and in target.
Can u help me with that?
Best wishes,
KarolIt's looks like you are right. I've made production version for configured material and production order created. Thanks.
Due to such a behavior we have to make two different integration models - the first for KMATs and its PDSs and the second for configured variants. And we have to make production versions for all variants.
Am I right? -
Variance calculation repport (KKS2) different to variance line items (KOB3)
Hi, need your help.
I´ve run variance calculation (KKS2) for one production order, one target cost version and it has calculated correctly all cost element variances. However, when I display variance line items (KOB3) for this order with the same target cost version used in KKS2, calculation is´t correct for all cost element and if I compare it with KKS2 repport, it displays different values. Does anyone know why?
some details that may help:
WIP is customize
The company I´am working for had activated "write line Items" (OKV1) after the golive,
Scrap check box is activate in variance key,
All variance categories are activate,
etcetera
Thank you for your help.
Regards,
AndréHi
I would suggest raise an OSS msg then.. Because i dont see any possible reason why this could happen
In my case, the only discrepancy I found was variance doc was posted to FI and not to COPA because the user did not execute variance calculation in update mode.. So, variance got posted in FI, but not in COPA...
But the posted values always matched in my case,,,
Do update us incase you find solution
Regards
Ajay M -
Variance Calculation In Process order
Dear All Gurus,
We have produt cost by order.
In process order variance calculation I am gatting variance being calculated on Input v/s output costs.
While settlement also same variance is being posted.
I want variance to be calculated target v/s Actual
Please advice
Thanks in advance
BhushanI think in production order the variance is calculated between actual costs vs planned costs which is nothing but the input costs minus the gr coss of material produced at std costs.
Is that happenning or not?? -
Process order variance calculation not taking the GI+Activity confirmation Cost
Hi,
Process oder was settled in the Month of June,2014. Accounting document was generated,but system only considered the GR cost. System was not considered the GI as well as activity cost on variance calculation. Variance posted GR= Variance.
22nd June,2014 Variance calculated, on 30th WIP entery also reversed with the same amount.
1st July,Order done untecho and no transactions are posted in the Month of July.
Now they would like to settle the Process in the Month of July. system is throwing the error " Status DLV/TECHO reversed after settlement period 006.2014"
Order status was TECO PRT CNF PRC CSER BASC BCRQ CRF No variance calculation status.
Any one faced any similar issue , please suggest me how to proceed.Hi,
Please check SAP Note 386816 for error KV181.
In general it is recommended to use the Cost estimate of the Process Order (Planned Cost Estimate) for the WIP at target calculation. In additional please pay attention to SAP Note 386816 which explains this procedure and which prerequisites must be met to calculate WIP at targets or the scrap variance. Even if the group counter of the routing is different you can still calculate WIP at targets but only if the message type of message KV181 is set to SPACE by Customizing settings.
Hope this will a bit help to you.
Best regards, Takashi -
Target cost calculation in Process Order based on Variance Calculation
Hi all,
I have a question on Target cost calculation in Process Order. My understanding is, the Target Costs gets calculated when the confirmation and GR is made for the Process Order.
But if the confirmation/GR is not done, whether the target costs gets calculated for only the activity types after the Variance Calculation (KKS2).
I have two scenarios. In one, the target costs got calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR after the Variance calculation.
In another scenario, the target costs are not getting calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR if I try to do the variance calculation in KKS2.
SO i want to know which scenario is correct?
Can anyone answer this question?
Thanks and Regards,
BrijeshHi,
In general, the target costs are calculated once you deliver the order.
Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
Consider your scenario number 1 - you said the target costs got calculated for activity types without confirmation / GR after variance calculation.
Now, if the order is not having any status like PDLV, DLV or TECO it will not calculate the variances in the first place.
Your second scenario is correct - without GR the system does not calculate any target costs. Also it will not calculate any variances because the order status is still not DLV.
Best Regards,
Sameer -
How to see Summarized Hierarchy for Variances after variance calculation
Hi,
How to see Summarized Hierarchy for Variances after variance calculation.
Thanks
Sunithahi Sunitha,
KOB3 is the t.code. assign me kindly.
regards
Sirisha -
Avoid variance calculation on product order
Hi experts,
i have a question. We have a material with cost estimate with quantity structure, cost estimate is release. All cost components in cost component structure are in inventory valuation. On the product order are then target costs. When material is producing, one component of BOM (cost element XXX) is not consumption on product order. When i start variance calculation, SAP calculate variance to this one component (cost element XXX) and by settlemnet of order, posting variance to FI. But this thing i don´t want. It is possible prohibit calculation of variance for this component of BOM - cost element XXX on product order? It is possible prohibit settlement this variance to FI? What i can do for it?
Thanks a lot,
GustavoHi,
i must settlement product order, so i need variance calculation. So can i settlement variances to FI only for some components of BOM and one variances of one component leave on procuct order? Or can i settlement variances of one component of BOM to other cost centrum than others components (alternatively under other cost elements)? Maybe substition.... If yes, how?
Thanks a lot,
Gustavo -
Output price variance calculation
Hello,
I have a question on output price variance calculation in SAP.
The help reads:
"Output price variances are reported in the following situations:
If the standard price has changed between the time point of delivery to stock and the time point when the variances are calculated "
I do not quite understand this as when I have a standard price change between the delivery to stock and the variance calculation, I will already have a CO-PA entry for the price change. So why do I need another CO-PA posting for the variance?
Looking at the simple example of having costs of 150 USD when producing a material of 150 USD. If nothing changes I have a variance of 0 USD.
However if I receive the finished product to stock with a value of 150 USD and then revaluate to 165 USD before the variance calculation happens, I understand SAP would post an output price variance of 15 USD? But I also get 15 USD price variance from the stock revaluation into my books, so isnt that a double count?
Thanks a lot for your help
KaiHi Kai Hoffmann ,
As the SAP Help says...
Output price variances are reported in the following situations:
If the standard price has changed between the time point of delivery to stock and the time point when the variances are calculated
With respect to the above point, pls follow the example and let me know if you agree or not...
Let us say, we have Standard Cost of Product X for the month of Feb as $100 per tonne.
One Production Order is created for 100 Tonnes and you made Goods Receipt for 50 tonnes during Febrauray. (50 Tonnes posted to Inventory a @$100). Now, at the month-end, you estimated the Standard Cost once again and the new Standard Cost effective for the month of March is $110 per tonne.
Revaluation of inventory is done for 50 tonnes (for GR posted alread and in stock) and $10 * 50 tonnes is posted to Price Difference Account.
Now, during the month of March, you made the GR for balance 50 Tonnes on the Production Order. Inventory is posted @ $110. Once you do TECO and do the variance calculation, the system will post $10 * 50 tonnes as output price variance, which will flow to COPA and Price Difference Account.
So, I dont feel there is a double count or duplication...
waiting for your comments
Srikanth Munnaluri -
Exclusion of target cost in Variance calculation
Hi,
While calculating variance in period end closing for a process order we are getting the errors.
1) No standard cost estimate for material 400000020 in plant TSIL on 26.12.2006 Target Costs: Determine Valuation Basis
2) Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs for 000001000109 Variances
We do not want to include the Target cost in variance calculation.
Please advise.
Regards
AniruddhaHello Anirudh,
If you choose costing version in variance calculation 0, then system calculates variance based on std. cost est. and actual cost. if you select 1, then system calculates variance based on planned cost and actual cost.
Go to customization settings in variance analysis calculation and change the costing version from 0 to 1.
Please let me know if you require any more clarifications.
Reward points if helpful.
Regards,
Santosh -
User defined error management in variance calculation
Dear Expert,
I would like to change the message type for some messages in variance calculation. Path: IMG/product cost controlling/cost object controlling/product by order/manufacturing order/periodic processing. According to IMG documentation, the message type can be changed here. But I failed to edit the message and it seems not modifiable. Can anyone reply on this? Thanks!
BEST REGARDS
Maggie
Edited by: Qin Ou on Oct 27, 2009 6:36 AMHi,
I am able to change the message is the IMG Path:
IMG/product cost controlling/cost object controlling/product by order/manufacturing order/ User defined Error Management /
1, Specify User-Def. Msg Types for Preliminary Costing of Manufacture
2, Assign Message to Responsible Area
Regards,
Sridhar Sha -
Query regarding the variance calculation
Hi all,
Hope all are doing well. i have an query regarding the VARIANCE CALCULATION IN Production planning module.
here i could see KKS1,KKS2,KKA1 etc,. codes they are using in sap. can any one kindly clarify these codes and uses. pls
regs,
siva-vHi Siva,
To understand the basics of variance calculation in SAP, read below threads which will provide detail information on the same,
Basics of variance calculation-Understanding Period End activities, WIP and Variances
Variance Calculation -KKS1
How production order variance get calculated
Regards,
Narresh -
Variance Calculation and Settlement
Hello Gurus,
While performing period end closing, the variance calculated (KKS6) amount is not the same as the amount in settlement (KK87). Both are picking up the same variance categories for the material but with different values. can you please let me know the reason for this.
Note: This error occurs only for one company code, other company codes calculate and settle the same amount. WIP and scrap is not being used by the company codes.
Thanks in advance.Hi Friend,
did you check whehter all your allocation and distribution cycles related to that company code are executed.
in my opinion you need to check if that is executed and again compare the both reports
Best Regards,
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