Variant Config with Plng w/o Final Assembly case

Friends,
I have requirements to map Variant Config scenario for products that are Forecasted for the purposes of driving the dependent materials production/procurement.
The Finished configured part is forecasted for standard configuration, however, it is only assembled at the receipt of a Sales Order. The sub-assemblies/components are manufactured/procured in advance driven by the dependent demand frm parents PIR's. I can use Strgy 50 & make the matl configurable, but the system asks me to create Config Plng Profile to be able to create PIR's for it.
Want to know if there is a simpler way/strategy group with which I can manage the same? The configuration process itself is pretty straight forward, its the forecasting part that is creating the prblm to me.
Any ideas.

Guys,
I found the way out for this. It all depends on how can the business:
1. Forecast accurately on the diff configurations possible (Plng Profile & Table)
2. Can they produce good consumption history on the lower lvl assemblies/components
The following can be done based on the buss reqts:
Finished prod's planned with Strgy 25, assemblies with 70 or Use Strgy 56, 89 for char based plng. The latter are v complicated unless the data is available on usage probabilities of config paramters..
thanks

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