Vault (external) file size Versus Aperture Library (internal) file size discrepancy?

Using Aperture 3.3.1 (all my images are Referenced). I created my first vault on an external hard drive. The Vault.apvault file size is 32.8 GB. My Aperture Library.aplibrary file size on my iMac hard drive is 81.6 GB. So I am wondering if I have a full back-up in Vault or not. Seems like a large discrepency in file size. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.

Do any Images that you don't expect show up when you filter "Photos" using the Rule "File Status" with the argument "Managed"?
If not, then close Aperture and repair your database. Instructions are on the Apple Aperture trouble-shooting page.
Does that make any difference?

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Trying to reduce the size of Aperture library

I have a 295 GB library and a 500 GB Hard drive.
Trying to reduce size of Aperture library, (ver 3.4.3) have deleted lots of big videos, duplicates of big videos, lots of poor quality photos, emptied Aperture trash and size hasn't changed. I don't know what else to do - I am cosidering splitting my library up into two - and keeping older stuff on an external - I like to have it on my laptop - so when I am at a show - I can show my clients, customers potential photos for purchase. I'd hate to have it all on an external.
I shoot mostly in RAW - so the files are quite large - also found 'some' dupes - and am afraid there are a lot more... Looking at the app ADD that someone suggested to see if that helps. However, if deleting dupes, then deleting trash doesn't change the size - not sure what's wrong -
I have shut down and restarted as well...
HELP

Have you emptied your OS system Trash?
The space isn't made available to any programs until you empty the system trash.
Click the Trash icon in the Dock, and then click the "Empty" button.

Should I store my cr2 files in the aperture library?

I have noticed aperture slowing, pausing and even crashing recently. I was wondering if storing too many cr2 files in the aperture library might cause this. At this time I have a little over 6000 cr2 files in the aperture library.

Generally, no. And generally, size alone is not a problem.
I regularly run Libraries with 30,000 24 MPxl Images, both from the system drive or from external drives, and have no problems.
I built up a Library of 1 MB JPG Images to 300,000 Images in order to test Aperture and did not encounter any problems except with Faces.
Although I haven't tested it directly, my sense is that Aperture performs better with large Libraries when the Images' Masters are Referenced and located on a separate drive from the Library. Put the Library on your highest-performing drive (almost always the system drive); put your Referenced Masters on a fast drive.
The first things to check if Aperture begins to behave poorly are (off the top of my head):
- drive space (Aperture needs a lot of free space on your system drive
- other programs (Aperture is hardware intensive; a poorly written utility can slow the OS a little -- but that little can hobble Aperture on that machine)
- Library corruption (Force-quitting can do this -- run "Repair")
- File fragmentation (OS X does a good job preventing this, but I still recommend defragmenting large Libraries once a month. Copying to a second drive, and then copying the copy back, defragments files.)
- Also, make sure your copy of Aperture is up-to-date.

Time Machine file size vs actual file size of Aperture library

My Aperture database is 74.5GB. I have a referenced library. My photos are backup up on their own using Time Machine. I also use Time Machine to backup my Aperture database. However, I noticed yesterday that the Aperture filesize on my time machine backup is only 28.3GB. I need to upgrade my hard drive and had planned to just restore form time machine backup, but I am worried about losing Aperture data. Does anyone know why there is a discrepency?
-Debbie

Johnk93 wrote:
MacDLS,
I recently did a little house-cleaning on my startup drive (only 60Gb) and now have about 20Gb free, so I don't think that is the problem.
It's probably not a very fast drive in the first place...
I know that 5MB isn't very big, but for some reason it takes a lot longer to open these scanned files in photoshop (from aperture) than the 5MB files from my camera. Any idea why this is?
Have a look at the file size of one of those externally edited files for a clue - it won't be 5MB. When Aperture sends a file out for editing, it creates either a PSD or an uncompressed TIFF after applying any image adjustments that you've applied in Aperture, and sends that out. Depending on the settings in Aperture's preferences this will be in either 8-bit or 16-bit.
As a 16-bit uncompressed TIFF, a 44 megapixel image weighs in at a touch over 150MB...
Ian

Vault size vs APerture library size and related questions

My aperture library is 50GB for some 65,000 referenced pictures...how does this compare with others? To me, it seems a bit big.
Also odd. The vault backup of my libarary is 9.1GB ONLY! How come?
I think that all of my pictures are referenced.....is there an easy way to check?
If I make a new fresh library and restore from the vault, what will I loose, if anything? Will I need to reconnect pictures or anything?

that seems about right to me. what's taking up space are previews and thumbnails. afaik, the vault doesn't hold any of those, only the database, albums, projects and configuration files.
if you restore from a vault, all the previews and thumbnails have to be rebuilt. you can save a little space that way, because the thumbnail files don't shrink when you erase photos or move them to another project, but personally i don't think it's worth the time and effort.
j

How do I move image files from my aperture library to an external hard drive?

I want to free up space on my MacBook Pro by moving most of my image files to a new external hard drive. I want to manage these image files with Aperture as referenced files. I've read much about importing from external drives, leaving the original image file on the external drive, and managing as a managed reference file. But but I haven't seen anything in the literature yet that tells me how to free up space on my laptop's drive.

The screen shot got messed up so its hard to tell what part you're asking about. But if you're asking about this part of the window:
That's were you setup the folders that the originals will go into and how you want the originals to be named (if you want to change the way they are named)
The Subfolder format box defines how the subfolders will be named. IN the image above the subfolders will be named by the image date. A folder for the year, a folder under that for the month and then a folder under that for the day. Then finally the original files.
The name format sets how the originals are named. In the case above they would be named by the version name followed by a sequence number.
regards

File Location in Aperture Library

So, I'm new to aperture having transitioned from Lightroom.
When I set up my aperture ilbrary I oould have sworn I maked keep images in current location (where I had them stored in LR). Those files show in finder to be 681GB. When I look at my new aperture libray, it's 745GB. So I presume that I've inadvertanly set up an aperture library with the images stored within. Is this a correct assumption?
If I leave it this way, what do I lose? Can these enormous files become corrupt? I only do a backup offsite once a month or so.
Should I delete this new aperture library and re-import w/o moving the files?

Stevej2001 wrote:
So, I'm new to aperture having transitioned from Lightroom.
When I set up my aperture ilbrary I oould have sworn I maked keep images in current location (where I had them stored in LR). Those files show in finder to be 681GB. When I look at my new aperture libray, it's 745GB. So I presume that I've inadvertanly set up an aperture library with the images stored within. Is this a correct assumption?
Based on the size, I would say that it is indeed a 'Managed Library' where all your images are being stored inside the 'Aperture Library' package.
If I leave it this way, what do I lose? Can these enormous files become corrupt? I only do a backup offsite once a month or so.
Other than an OS corruption or Disk corruption, it is the database inside the Aperture Library that can become corrupt, which does not compose a huge issue as you can always manually remove the Master images in the worst case scenario.
Should I delete this new aperture library and re-import w/o moving the files?
Many people choose a 'Referenced Library' (which is what Lightroom uses) for a number of reasons. The most common reasons are; 1 - long term storage needs for Masters may exceed internal drive space; 2 - using manually created 'Finder' folders is preferable to using the Library Inspector view; 3 - Master files will be stored in an easily accessible form if the Aperture database gets corrupted beyond fixing and you at least have the Masters already filed logically and easily managed for a new system or library.
In the end, it is up to you; but deleting the new library and re-importing while leaving the Masters in their current location should be in line with what you have been doing with Lightroom. This would mean doing backups of the Masters and Aperture Library as separate operations (not a big deal if you have the external resources for copying).

Managing size of Aperture library

I am a wedding photographer and shoot 10k-12k images per month. Other than latest projects, I move all my Master files to external drives, keeping only previews on my iMac. All my master files are always 'referenced'.
My concern is that the Aperture library itself is getting too large in size, its approx 70 GB. On expanding the library ('show package content), I notice that the Previews folder itself is 50+ GB.
- Do the preview files take up so much space?
- Is there a way to reduce the size of the Aperture library itself (without splitting the library into smaller ones n shifting them elsewhere)
How do others address this issue?

Using your own words, you have a concern rather than an issue.
My advice is simply don't worry about it. It's remarkably common for people to take their working system and try to apply some preventtive maintenance to it and inadvetently turn it into a non-working system! Just look through the kind of issues raised here to see many examples.
Aperture is designed to handle the volumes with ease and if the current size is not presenting any actual problems for you, I'd just let it get on and do its thing.
Having said that, storage management and planning is important, but you aleady have the lions share of that side of things under control with the use of referenced files and external drives.
The actual library is (among other things) your index into your external drives and the images they contain.
Thumbnails and Previews are the visual element of that index used for browsing and sharing your collection.
Thumbnails are used for browsing and are not optional. So previews is where you have the most opportunity to control the size.
However, keep in mind it's a trade-off; make smaller or lower quality prieviews to reduce the space they take up (in preferences), and they potentially become usuable in fewer scenarios. Elect not to keep the previews for some (or all) images, and you lose the ability to share them through iLife/Media Browser.
Previously I had a smaller internal hard and so needed to make this trade-off, and my approach was to only keep previews for my top rated images, as these were the ones I would be sharing in slideshows and online. However being a pro, I doubt this kind of trade off would work for you. It needs to be tailored to your own usage, for example perhaps keep previews for all projects for 3 years along with those that you elect to reperesent your portfolio.
Andy

Size of Aperture Library

I was seriously running out of space on my internal drive (2 TB). Moved my "original" Apterture library (1.5 TB) to an external drive over the weekend. Made sure everything went well (performed Vault backup before and then made sure all Projects, etc transferred with library to external drive) and then moved library from internal drive to the trash. Question -- Library is/was 1.5 TB, but after trashing it I only gained back approximately 800GB on my internal hard drive (only about half of what I expected to get back). Is this common? Shouldn't I have gained back the full 800GB?
Thanks,
John

I have not seen any recent problems reported due to the size of a Library. Have you?
John Dunnigan wrote:
(And indeed, you're correct -- I should not allow a library to get that big!!).
I do recommend moving most Originals to a separate drive when a Library hits the 100 GB mark.
Do you know how big your Library would be with no Originals in it?
It's easy to make all of your Managed Originals into Referenced Originals. You could put these on secondary or external drives, and perhaps put your Library back on your system drive.
I import all Originals into my Library, and then regular relocate to an external drive all Originals older than 60 days except the Originals for 5-star Images. This works well for me -- my computer is a laptop. The administrative effort is minimal. I regularly copy the drives holding Originals. Something similar might work well for you.
Re: the unrecovered storage space. I got nothing that hasn't been mentioned, unless you have not rebooted, in which case you should. The sectors are there -- you'll get them back eventually.

Master files consolidated into Aperture library and now lost...

Aperture 3.1 appears to be doing strange things with a few of my master RAW files stored in the Aperture Library. I consolidated several files (as a copy) into the library and the files showed that they were non-referenced for several months but now I get the yellow triangle and "Referenced File" arrow on the file metadata.
Any ideas Aperture folks?

I havent found an easier way. It happened to me once, and i just deleted all of the songs out of iTunes, but not out of my hard drive. then i replaced them all in the library. It took like 12 hours cuz i have 15 GB worth, but at least i didnt have any more doubles

Mounting Aperture library on file server

It appears that Aperture has all the organizational functionality that my group has long needed, but we wondered if the library can be mounted on a centralized file server so that multiple users can simultaneously access it from their workstations.
I read a thread entitled "One Computer, Two Users, Shared Library?" that discussed permissions, but I am interested to know if anyone has experience using Aperture by having the application on each client machine and the library on the server?
Bill

William,
Thanks for the DAM software suggestions. The Extensis Portfolio Server 8 looks promising so far. However, check out the way James Pittman (on a later thread) is doing it just with Aperture by having their master photoss reside on an XRaid file server and referencing them to each user's Aperture library.
Bill

I have mistakenly saved some files to my aperture library

I generally save to a series of portable drives. but I imported a bunch of jobs by mistake to my aperture library and it has made the library file pretty huge.
is there a way to delete files that are mistakenly saved to the aperture library?
I've scoured the manual but can't seem to figure out how out to fix my mistake.
m

The easiest way to do this is to set up a Smart Album. When the Smart Settings appear click on the top right hand corner on the + sign, select "file status" and a file status line with a pull down menu item will appear at the bottom of the Smart Settings dialog window. You can then select to have managed files shown (those in your Aperture Library) or referenced shown (referenced files not in the library) or missing files. I have these albums always displayed in my Aperture library so I know what is referenced and what is not. Sometimes the import selects the Aperture library for reasons I don't know. If you want these albums at the top of the stack I insert a space before the name and name them either referenced, managed or missing. Then follow the prior post to relocate your master images. Hope this helps.

Locating External Hard Drive (to move library and files)

I found an article on the Apple help site that almost answered all my questions about this (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301748). But when I followed the directions, I did not see my external hard drive as an available option in the list of drives/locations that came up. (And I was able to see my hard drive and access files on it via Explorer, etc.) Has anyone managed to move their Library and files successfully? ('Seems there are many people trying to do the same thing. We need better online help, Apple!)
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File Open Issues - document library pdf file to open in new browser window

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http://mindsharpblogs.com/todd/archive/2005/08/16/654.html
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I found a solution which works only in the development. No idea when I compared, Browser MIME type is enabled, STRICT browser type is configured for web application. on the document library advance setting, default to open in new browser. Both configurations
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One question I can’t seem to find the answer to anywhere – any idea on what the maximum size xml file one can use when making data driven graphics in Illustrator?
I can successfully batch when I load a single variable library with about 100 datasets at one time but anything much larger than that in the same xml format gives me a “the incoming variable library is invalid” error. Elsewhere on this discussion forum I have seen answers say there is no limit to the size of the XML file. (http://forums.adobe.com/thread/647934). But my experience with Illustrator CS5 says otherwise.
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