Vcore/VID P7N diamond

On my P7N Diamond - Q9450 C1, bios 1.4. I have my VCore in the bios set to +.025, Everest CPU physical info says Core Voltage 1.100 - 1.212 V. In Everst overclock it says VID 1.2125, which is what Core Temp says. They all say my core voltage is 1.21.
So am I really at +0 when I have my bios set to +.025? Is it undervolting at default? Does that mean if temps are sane I can safely crank it up to +.05?
Happy black friday
Edit: H/W Monitor in bios also says core voltage is 1.2

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 28-November-09, 18:36:06
What value do you get if you keep the setting @+0.0000V?
Good question. I will have to check that out.

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P7N Diamond - Problems with different things

Hi, n0id here.
I have recently bought a computer in parts (from different web shops).
Yesterday I finally got the processor and was able to build the computer, so I started building the computer.
After about an hour of mounting the parts, I decided it was finished, so I powered it on and watched it boot.
The first thing I noticed was that if my USB Keyboard was plugged in, POST would freeze at "Initializing USB Devices".
I figured it was only temporarily, so I switched to a PS/2 Keyboard, which helped.
The next thing that happened was the BIOS was not able to find my Hard Drive (SATA). I was wondering if because the motherboard support SATAII if SATA drives wheren't compatible. I opened the case and saw that the SATA cable wasn't plugged in properly. So after putting it back in properly, I booted the computer again.
So, now that POST was running OK and BIOS found all my components, I decided to install Windows XP.
After about a minute of reading the cd (windows initializes the installation program in DOS) it stopped reading, and the computer freezed. Finally, It got to the point where I can partition the HDD. But the computer would always reboot at this point. I haven't figured out why yet.
So I connected the HD to my old computer and installed windows here. That worked.
I reconnected the HD to the new computer and after windows loaded, I got a blue screen and the computer would reboot again.
So I decided to remove some of the components. I removed one RAM module, the soundcard (Creative XFI Gamer) and unplugged the 120mm back fan. At this point I was able to format the drive and install windows without a problem.
So I decided to insert the components again, but when I then started the computer, I didn't get a picture on the monitor. I tried with a different monitor and with a different graphics card, neither of which made a difference.
At that point I went to bed because I had already spent seven hours trying to figure things out and it had gotten very late.
So now I am here asking for any guidance.
My computer specs are:
MSI P7N Diamond motherboard,
2x 1Gb Kingston 1066 Memory modules running at 1.8v,
Geforce 7900GS,
Creative X-Fi Gamer soundcard,
Intel Q6600 G0 @ 2.4Ghz,
Thanks for any help.

Hello again.
I am trying to overclock my Q6600.
Everytime the FSB is over 267mhz (2.4ghz CPU Clock) I get a BSOD: "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".
Then it's dumping the memory and restarting.
When Windows starts up again, the FSB is back at 267mhz.
I am using the application MSI Dual Core Center, that followed with my motherboard.
I noticed in this application that memory voltage was set to 1.9v. The memory modules I bought are 1.8v because when I bought the MSI P7N Diamond, it said it only supported 1.8v memory. aww :S
Anyway, my full specs are:
Intel Q6600 (G0 stepping) - 2.4ghz
MSI P7N Diamon (7510) Mainboard
1x 1GB Kingston (KVR1066D2N7K2/2G) memory modules, 1.8v, 1066Mhz,
Antec NeoPower 650 (650W, 3x 12v @ 16A)
GeForce 7900GS
Creative X-Fi Gamer
Win XP Pro, SP2.
I am going to browse around the forums for similiar problems, though I thought I'd post this now.
After browsing the forums I've learned a few things.
My Q6600 has a VID of 1.3250 and the box it came with said that 1.35v is the max. So I have changed the voltage to +0.0250 and was able to clock the CPU to 2.67Ghz without a problem (temps are 33 - 36 celcius on idle.)
My question this time is: even though the box says 1.35v max will I safely be able to set the voltage higher than that?
I would assume that Intel is setting a maximum that is lower than the actual max, just to keep the processor safe. But I do not know stuff like that :P
My target is 3ghz, and if reaching that clock means I need to apply a greater voltage than 1.35v, and it isn't safe; that would totally suck.
edit,
To achieve 3ghz I supplied these settings in the BIOS:
FSB: 1333 Mhz
DRAm: 800 Mhz
EIST: Disabled
Multiplier: x9
Nb voltage: 1.35
FSB Term.: 20
CPU GTL Fef: 5
The cores are currently at 36-38 at idle, compared to 28-32 on stock clock.
I will see if I can buy some extra fans to put in the front to blow cool air into the case, and maybe buy a new cpu cooler.
Btw, the vCore is 1.3v (and it's also set to auto in bios).

Users running the P7N Diamond and QX9650 please weigh in. I need help...

OK, I'll start from the beginning. I had an EVGA 780i mobo, which ran a Q6600 at 3ghz quite easily. Well, I decided that I had money to burn so I ordered a QX9650. It would not work on the EVGA, the cpu voltage and cpu fsb voltage would not adjust no matter what I tried. So, I popped the cpu into my kids rig, which has a DFI X38 mb and the cpu worked perfectly, voltages adjusted, multiplier adjusted, etc. During the RMA process to EVGA, I got an MSI P7N Diamond to run SLI with. Stuck the cpu in it and away I went into Vista 64, all happy. I had to bump the memory voltage up to 1.95 volts, but that was it. I then decided to raise the multi from 9 to 10. I set it, warm booted and tested it in Vista. 100% stable. 2 days later, I attempted to turn my computer on. No post. I had to power off/on very quickly to get it to post, at which point I got an error message that the cpu vid had failed or there was a mismatch with the cpu to fsb ratio, hit F1 to enter setup or F2 to load defaults. I e-mailed MSI and received beta P05 and it was just downhill from there. I couldn't cold boot at all, stock settings, OC settings, voltages adjusted, it didn't matter. So back to the shipping bios. I got a new beta this morning, dated 2/18, and it was the exact same.
Issues with both beta's:
1. Cannot cold boot.
2. Logitech G15 acts erratically prior to entering Vista.
Things I have tried:
1. Raising Vcore.
2. Raising NB/SB voltages.
2. Raising FSB Terminator voltage.
Nothing helps. MSI simply told me not to OC and run at stock and that there was no problem. Is there anyone else out there that has this cpu and mb? If so, can you post your experience with it and let me know if there is something I am doing wrong or could try?

Below is the actual transcript that I had with MSI on this issue. As far as they are concerned, I don't need to change the multiplier on my QX9650. (Start reading from the bottom up for the actual order of the conversation)
Quote
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Then, there is no problem with the mb.
End User 02/19/2008 There doesn't seem to be any issues with usb while on using the shipping bios, I only see it when I flash to the beta bios'.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If the stock bios also has the usb issue then try: Have all USB device connected to the rear USB ports that are build onto the mb and retest with all USB header on the mb be removed from any front USB connections or adapter connections and retest. If all steps have been tried and problem still persists then please kindly refer to our website for manufacturer warranty RMA info/request: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CustomerS.asp
End User 02/19/2008 No change. I cannot even cold-boot at stock settings with this. Also, it still kills my Logitech G15 keyboard randomly. i have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it to power up, and that is only after I boot into Vista. Back on the shipping bios for now at stock settings. Please, if you would, keep me informed of changes or progress. Thanks.
End User 02/19/2008 Thanks! I will poat back if it helps or not.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Beta bios v111 attached to this form.
End User 02/19/2008 Is there any other beta bios' that you have that could help? The P05 didn't work out so well, maybe you have a newer one that I could try? It seems odd that it is only on a cold boot that I have issues and not on warm boots. I am willing to try anything you got at this point!
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Sorry, but MSI did not see any issue with using QX9650 processor.
End User 02/19/2008 So are you saying that as far as MSI is concerned, there is no issue with the QX9650 and the P7N Diamond motherboard? I am not asking you for advice on hot to OC it, I am asking you if you know of the issue and are looking into it to try and correct it. If you do not think there is an issue and are not going to investigate it, then I will be very disappointed.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If there is no problem with standard bios and no OC then you can refer to other website/forum for OC suggestions or settings. MSI does not provide these setting/suggestions since it can cause damage to the components.
End User 02/19/2008 Also, I am unable to use the Dual Core center, as I am running Vista 64. It does not load properly when using this OS.
End User 02/19/2008 As of now, it boots and runs fine with the shipping bios and no OC. But, why would I have paid such a high premium to get a QX9650, that has an unlocked multiplier, if I cannot use it? Is this strictly an issue with the newer 45nm Intel processors or is it something else? If not being able to use my cpu's unlocked multiplier is "ok", then I may return the board for a refund.
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 What is the problem when system uses the standard bios and not OC?
End User 02/18/2008 Is there a fix on the way or is it just a problem with my hardware? I have it back on the shipping bios and it is at least cold-booting now, as well as my G15 is working. I upped the NB voltage a hair above auto, maybe this has somethinng to do with it?
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Use the standard bios and use software to OC: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1372
End User 02/18/2008 I was way too quick to say everything is OK. I now have cold boot issues aplenty. 9 times out of 10 it will not post on a cold boot, but will warm boot. I have to power off then on real quickly to get it to post at stock speeds. Also, my Logitech G15 started to act erratic with the P05 beta. I am back on the shipping bios until I hear from you.
End User 02/18/2008 Thanks you for the beta. I flashed to it, cleared the cmos and set everything back up and now I have a new problem. Even though I have disabled the EIST function in the bios, it still seems to be on. i am using cpu-z version 1.44.1 to monitor the multiplier and it randomly shifts between whatever I set it to and 6. It is even doing it when the system is loaded, ie playing games. Please, help!
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Beta bios attached to this form.
End User 02/18/2008 Everything is stable 100%. But, on my QX9650, I set the multiplier to 10X to run at 10x333=3.33ghz. It was fine until this morning. I turned the computer on and it would not post. I powered down and repowered it up and it siad the cpu vid had failed or errored, hit F1 to enter setup or F2 to load defaults. I entered setup and the multiplier was set back to 9x. I left it there and am ok now. Is there a beta bios that helps out operations with the newest Intel 45nm processors, such as the QX9650?
I have absolutely no issues in Vista itself, it is 100% stable. It is only on a cold boot that I have serious issues. And yes, I got 3 in a row, went to work for a few hours, then came home and bam! No cold boot. Also, I don't know how comfortable I am raising the vcore that much, as 1.21-1.25 is the normal operating range. 1.3625 is aweful high. Now, with the 65nm quads, that is more in the range of what would be needed, but no way should it be necessary to pushh this QX9650 to a meeger 3.33ghz. As far as temps go, I have the processor watercooled, so no worries there. I am away from home now until Saturday morning, so I can't test anything until the weekend.
Thanks alot for the responses!
Shawn

P7N Diamond: Q6600 to 4.05ghz!! But stability at 3.6ghz?

Hi all,
I believe I've obtained the first successful non-extreme Kentsfield Quad bench above 4.0ghz on the P7N Diamond. It can be done.
The processor is a watercooled Q6600 G0 Batch L737B277 with a VID of 1.2375. The chipset is using the standard circupipe cooling, but I did buy an Antec Spot Cool to blow air over the NB. It seems to be doing a reasonable job.
Here are my OC settings and voltages:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 4.05ghz (450 x 9)
FSB: 1800 (450 x 4)
RAM: 900 (450 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-5-5-15-2T (sub-timings on auto)
vCore: Max set in BIOS (haven't benched lower, but it may be possible.)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.55
SB: 1.65
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
all other voltages on auto.
Unfortunately, I'm still having a bit of trouble stabilizing at 3.6ghz. I've cornered it down to the same thing every time. The computer will eventually freeze (not blue screen or reboot, but freeze) at around 10 minutes of Prime 95 or between 2 and 5 minutes of OCCT (RAM stress.)
My current settings for 3.6ghz stable are as follows:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 3.6ghz (400 x 9)
FSB: 1600 (400 x 4)
RAM: 800 (400 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-4-4-13-2T (default EPP timings)
vCore: 1.4375 (+2.000v set in BIOS)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.4
SB: 1.55
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
My guess is that the issue lies with the NB or SB, with RAM being the third option. I don't think it's the processor, based upon VID, batch, and the type of errors I'm getting (freezes, nothing else.)
I'm learning more about how NB and SB voltages effect the system, as well as how all of the reference, gtl, and terminator voltages interact (MSI's odd BIOS settings make this all the more difficult.) However, I'm still guessing at places, and without the ability to pinpoint a single voltage that's causing the freezing, it's becoming a bit tiresome. I've tried upping NB to 1.45 and SB 1.6 but can't seem to prevent the freezing. Perhaps its a combination of the two, or perhaps my FSB Terminator voltage is off. If anyone has any ideas on what could be causing this freezing, that would be great going forward.
Seeing that I can bench at 4.05ghz, I should be able to find stability at 3.6ghz. It's just a matter of time, and as always, further explanation of MSI's unique voltage settings always helps.
Thanks everyone!

Here's a brief overview of my 3.6 settings. Cpu is a G0 batch L737A702 with a VID of 1.2875, bios A7510NMS.116, C1E and EIST disabled.
The first screen in cell menu just shows mode to manual, fsb to 1600, and multi at 9. The pci-e freq=107 is just to give me a little help for oc my vid cards so disregard that setting.
Next you see my voltages. One might assume that cpu VID 1.2875v+.225v increase in bios will mean a vcore of 1.5125 but this isn't the case at all as you will see from H/W Monitor in a moment.
The H/W Monitor screen is showing me vcore 1.464v and while I'm sure part of this is vdrop, it also leads me to believe that bios may not be setting the initial voltage correctly or that there is some amount of vdroop before the OS is even loaded. Of course that's purely speculation without actual digital multi-meter measurements.
I can show prime 25.6 stability if need be, I have run it 6hr with similar settings on bios 114 but honestly I'm not really big on hours of stress testing. It cuts into my WCG time too much and I have taken kind of a personal interest in that since my cancer diagnosis 7 weeks ago. 4 cores crunching 24/7 without error and the occasional game of Witcher or Silent Hunter 4 is my idea of stable. You can see the CPU-Z Core Voltage 1.424v 100% load so vdroop is around .04v. You might also note ram timings are tight and CL1. The OCZ Reaper HPC's don't oc worth a damn but they run mighty tight stock.
The temps are really something I'm not going to discuss too much. The common question seems to be "which app should I trust?". I'll leave this argument to people who know a lot more about intel thermal specs than I do. The author of Real Temp (unclewebb) said something in a post that stuck with me: If you are Prime stable and have left some head room before TjMax, which you have plenty of, then absolute temperatures don't matter one bit. 50C, 55C, 60C, 65C and even 70C doesn't matter while running Prime as long as you are stable. You are within the Intel spec and you aren't going to hurt anything. With no documentation of TjMax by Intel and no user testing of TjMax for your new processor, absolute temperature is no more than just an interesting number no matter what software you are using to report it.
A s-pi 8m run

Overclocking 45nm Quad and P7N Diamond

Hi everyone. I have a Xeon X3350 (same as a Q9450) and I'm trying to OC it. But it's just not working...at all...not even a little.
Default clocks are 333x8, but I can't even get it to 350x8. I know it's not the processor because I've seen people get it up to 475x8 without issues.
The processor has a VID of about 1.02, and I've given it a +.125 Vcore bump and NB voltage is at 1.45. It POSTs but Windows won't load.
FSB term is at 25 and I've varied CPU ref from the defaults up to 60, still nothing. I should be able to get it to 350x8 on stock voltages, but it doesn't work.
RAM is at 5-5-5-15 2T @ 800MHz and 2.1V. BIOS is 1.0. (I know there are newer BIOS, but shouldn't 1.0 work with just the modest OC?)
I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thanks.

Greetings, I couldn't help but to comment on this. I think you wom't be able to overclock further with the P7N diamond. I had mine and I went back to my trusted P35 Platinum. I had problems with it with my E8500, tried all the beta bios and to no avail. Last week I got my new Q9450 and the same thing happened. You just cant have stable overclock. You will get different kinds of errors and bsod's. Now, with ol" P35 I'm running my Q9450 @3.4 with just 1.21 vcore. There were a few guys here who were lucky to run their Q6600 but these are "old" procs. I wish they could try running E8500 or Q9450 and see if they get the same results. I think MSI has problem with the board. Why is it that they have not released any complete and certified bios for the P7N diamond??? It's been months and I got tired going to their website and no new bios. And the four beta's are still not that good to work with. The board looks good, the layout is good... but it sucks.

P7N Diamond Northbridge/Southbridge Temps

Hi all,
Is there any bios update or software that can currently monitor the northbridge and southbridge temperatures on the P7N Diamond? It's starting to heat up here in California and my last board (Asus Striker II Formula) fried my PCI-E Slot due to NB/SB temps ranging from 70C-85C.

Quote from: Fadamor on 26-April-08, 06:03:41
Bizarre. I just ran it on my home rig and got the following report:
Code: [Select]
CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.0.8.0
Mainboard Vendor MSI
Mainboard Model MS-7510 (0x19A - 0x5F2050)
LPCIO
Vendor Fintek
Model F71882F
Vendor ID 0x1934
Chip ID 0x541
Config Mode I/O address 0x4E
Hardware monitor
Fintek F71882F hardware monitor
Voltage sensor 0 3.26 Volts (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 1 1.22 Volts (CPU VCORE)
Voltage sensor 2 1.09 Volts (VIN2)
Voltage sensor 3 0.98 Volts (VIN3)
Voltage sensor 4 0.96 Volts (VIN4)
Voltage sensor 5 0.54 Volts (VIN5)
Voltage sensor 6 0.63 Volts (VIN6)
Voltage sensor 7 3.30 Volts (VSB3V)
Voltage sensor 8 2.99 Volts (VBAT)
Temperature sensor 0 45°C (113°F) (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1 52°C (125°F) (TMPIN1)
Fan sensor 0 1643 RPM (FANIN0)
Fan sensor 1 1175 RPM (FANIN1)
Fan sensor 2 1149 RPM (FANIN2)
Hardware monitor
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 hardware monitor
Temperature sensor 0 62°C (143°F) (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 60°C (140°F) (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 53°C (127°F) (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 51°C (123°F) (core #3)
Hardware monitor
GeForce 9800 GTX hardware monitor
Temperature sensor 0 60°C (140°F) (GPU Core)
Processors Map
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0
Processors Information
Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650
Codename Yorkfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)
CPUID 6.7.6
Extended CPUID 6.17
Core Stepping C0
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 3000.0 MHz (9.0 x 333.3 MHz)
Rated Bus speed 1333.3 MHz
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
max VID 1.250 V
Features , VT
... and a whole lot of other stuff regarding the threads being run. Which of those temperature readings are considered to be the NB and SB?
Temperature sensor 0 45°C (113°F) (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1 52°C (125°F) (TMPIN1)
those i believe

HELP! - Voltages for Overclocking Q9450 on the MSI P7N Diamond (780i chipset)

Hey. I fully understand the settings as far as frequencies go, but am a total voltage newb. No matter what I do I cant seem to get a stable vista load up with my voltage settings.
Please help me by providing suggested voltage settings for my hardware.
CPU - Intel Core2Quad Q9450
RAM - 6 gigs of DDR2-800 rated at 2.1V
VIDEO - Dual Nvidia Geforce 8800GT's in SLI
MOBO - MSI P7N Diamond, based off the Nvidia Nforce 780i SLI chipset
My cooling is sufficient, and I have the BIOS version 1.2
I also turned off all of the overclocking not friendly functions, example: spread spectrum, and DOT, ETC....
I am trying to run my CPU at 3.2 GHZ (400 mhz before multiplier)
my settings I want are (as shown in the P7N bios)
System Clock Mode - Manual
FSB clock - 1600
DRAM clock - 800
Please help me by providing the proper voltages for my setup
Everything I need is marked by "???"
CPU Voltage - ???
DRAM Voltage - (already have, its 2.1)
NB voltage - ???
SB voltage - ???
NB Memory reference voltage - ???
DIMM memory reference voltage - ???
Memory terminator voltage - ???
CPU GTL reference voltage - ???
NB GTL reference voltage - ???
FSB terminator voltage - ???
SB sleep mode voltage - ???
PCI Expander PLL voltage - ???
For the sake of you not typing too much, if you specify voltages, any that you do not specify will be assumed to be left at [AUTO]
PLEASE help me by providing some voltages for me, as I have absolutely no clue what to put for them. If you have any questions about my hardware feel free to ask, and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED

Quote from: nihilkrist on 08-October-08, 08:03:22
adjusting gtl ref. voltages isn't very difficult, but it is probably best to learn the basics first.
So, basically, increase the fsb a little. So, for example, from 1333 to 1400. See if it's stable, if it isn't try bumping up vcore one notch and try again. If not try Northbridge. Then later move on to stuff like the fsb term.
Test stability using prime95, there is a 64-bit multi-core aware version floating around somewhere. Try the ftp server linked to in the "hot use prime95" sticky on here.
Tbh with your OC you shouldn't need to touch any other voltages, or really use the gtl ref settings. What exactly is "sufficient" cooling though? Stock?
*EDIT: on a side note, just so you don't think I'm deliberately being awkward not telling you specific voltages, they wouldn't do you any good. Every cpu/mobo can handle different freq. at different voltages. Also, use cpu-z to check on your actual voltage and make sure you don't raise it beyond 1.3625 (I think that's right, it's 1.36something anyway)
Thanks for the tips. The reason I wanted to jump straight to FSB 1600 is because the MSI p7n is really picky and only likes 1:1 ratios.
My "sufficient cooling" is an aftermarket heatsink, high performance thermal paste, and MASSIVE airflow through my case. If you want specifics, its the Scythe Zipzang
Quote from: AaronYuri on 08-October-08, 09:05:16
CPU Voltage - No one can tell you this.
NB voltage - Depends on what frequency you want
SB voltage - What's your HDD setup?
NB Memory reference voltage - Auto
DIMM memory reference voltage - Auto
Memory terminator voltage - Auto
CPU GTL reference voltage - Depends on speed and other voltages
NB GTL reference voltage - Same as above
FSB terminator voltage - Depends on CPU voltage and CPU/FSB clock speed
SB sleep mode voltage - Auto
PCI Expander PLL voltage - Auto
My recommendation is do some reading. Guessing leads to dead hardware.
6GBs smells like mixing modules... Or do you have 3 modules?
First of all, I already stated the frequencies that I wanted in the top post, and fairly clearly at that.
CPU shouldnt be too hard to figure out, as there are very few to choose from. I'll try to get back to you on that one
I have 5, 7200rpm SATA 3.0 drives. It sometimes runs with only 4, as one is a hot swap.
My ram IS mixed, unfortunately. I'm using 2x 1gig sticks, and 2x 2gig sticks. However, both sets have heatsinks, and are rated at 800mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2t, timings. (2.1v)
I AM running them in dual channel.
If this helps you suggest voltages please do, If not, then I will just have to start trying using nihilkrist's suggestions.

Help overclocking E8500 on P7N Diamond

Hi to all!
Can you help me to overclock my system, please?
My workstation:
- E8500
- MSI P7N Diamond bios v1.2B2
- 8 GB Kingstod PC6400
- 2 SLI nvidia 8800 gts 320 mb
- ctrl DELL PERC 4E/DC
- 2 scsi hd 300 gb (not in raid)
- 5 hd sata 2 (5 x 1 Terabyte)
- Windows xp 64 sp2
with the default vcore (1.1) the system boot and load win64 at 1550 fsb and multipler by 9.5x; if I try fsb 1600 or 1604 (for the supposed fsb hole) the system does not boot. I've tried to up the vcore and the 8x multipler with the same result.
I don't think that is a cpu limit (all e8500 go to 4 ghz), but my inesperience to set up the parameters on the "cell menu", like all voltage parameters.
Thanks a lot
by!
Gian

What were your voltages? You're going to need a lot of nb volts with all that ram in there. The only thing I have is some screens from e8400 bench runs. I'll put them here so you can look. These were with beta bios 1.21. I was pushing voltages quite hard for this although I can't remember the exact numbers. That mobo doesn't have that cpu now. I'm running a q6600 in the P7N diamond now. I may have some photos of those bios settings though stored on my drives, I'll try and look tomorrow.
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P7N Diamond + Q9550 + CORSAIR TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF overclock

Hi,
I have a MSI P7N Diamond and i have installed one pairs of the above mentioned memory TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF Module. The thing is that i have yet to overclock but i cannot seem to get the modules to work at 5-5-5-12 at 2.1 volts.
The memory settings of the bios are:
SLI-READY memory= Expert
Memory voltage: 2,1v
and inside that i have set the following manually:
CAS 5
TRCD 5
TRP 5
TRAS 15
CR 2T
the pc will freeze on boot up, game load up or sometimes in game. Suggestions?
thank you

get with these settings FSB 1550 X 8.5
D.O.T. Control...................... Disabled
Intel EIST.......................... Enabled - vid 1.23v
SLI-READY memory.....................Expert
System Clock Mode................... [Manual
CPU Ratio Setting .................. [8.5]
FSB Frequency ...................... [1.550] 387.5 X 8.5 = 3.293 Mhz
PCIE Frequency ..................... [100]
DRAM Frequency ..................... [1066]
Auto Disabled DRAM/PCIE..............Enabled
Advance DRAM Configuration: Manual
1st
CAS# Latency (CL) : 5
TRCD : 5
TRP : 5
TRAS : 15
TRRD : Auto
TRC : 30
TWR : Auto
TWTR : Auto
TREF : Auto
1T/2T NENORY TIMING : 2T
CPU Voltage ........................[0.01250]
DRAM Voltage .......................[2.10]
NB Voltage .........................[1.300]
SB Voltage .... ....................[1.575]
NB Memory Reference Voltage ........[1.045]
Memory Reference Voltage............[1.075]
Memory Terminator Voltage ..........[1.275]
CPU GTL Reference Voltage ..........[Auto]
NB GTL Reference Voltage............[Auto]
FSB Terminator Voltage .............[1.293]
SB Sleep Mode Voltage...............[Auto]
PCIe Expander PLL Voltage ..........[Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum ................[disable]
is to reach 3600? I have to change?
my test in CPU-Z
STOCK:
in test IntelBurnTestV2
is good? thank you
--I hotlinked your images so you didn't need to have the separate links.
I also moved the thread to the overclocking section.
-Mike

P7N Diamond + XP x64 and SLI

System specs:
MSI P7N Diamond
Intel C2D E2160 @ 3GHz
4x 1GB Team Xtreem Dark PC6400 C4
2x PNY 8800GTS 512mb
Western Digital 3200YS + 5000AAKS
Cooler Master Real Power Pro M700 700W PSU
When I put the comp together I installed only one 8800GTS at first to make sure that wouldn't cause any trouble.
So what did I do,
- Got my all new shiny machine, put it all together etc. Downloaded XP x64 off my MSDNAA account and installed it.
- Found out MSI didn't put the XP x64 drivers on the CD? so I downloaded the 570i and 780i drivers off the nvidia site and Installed them.
- Everything seemed to work, Windows installed LAN etc perfectly fine.
- Downloaded the newest Nvidia GFX drivers 196.21 and installed them, found the 8800GTS fine and worked.
- Update XP x64 with the latest updates and reboot the machine.
- Install 3dmark06 and make sure everything worked as it should and it worked fine so time to add the second 8800GTS.
- Put the 8800GTS in the second blue PCI-E 16x slot and install the SLI Bridge and power on the machine again, booted into windows and notified that the system was SLI capable, then went to the control panel and wanted to enable SLI and it gave me this message.
So I decided it was time to check of the cards where running at 4x speed or higher.
Apparently they are, I also checked GPU-Z to make sure and both gave the same results, now maybe I missed an option or something? Or could this just be because they are PCI-E 2.0 and this is just new? I know the cards work in SLI they did on my old machine.
Any help will be appreciated, DarkBlaze

DarkBlaze,
I had a problem enabling SLI on my P7N also. Dont forget to reload the video drivers when you install and bridge the second card..just to make sure. Also, download the Nvida Performance Monitor version 6.10 from Nvidia's website. It has 3 parts..networking, monitor and performance, you can install all three, but I just loaded the "Performance" software and then enabled SLI from there. You can OC your vid card with it, but the mainboard screens aren't 100% active yet. Sum it up..reload the vid drivers, download and install the Nvidia Performance Monitor, open the control panel and enable SLI and apply. That should do it.
Link--> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_system_tools_6.10.html
Oh yeah..I would not use the Dual Core center...nothing but problems, set values in bios and check with CPU-Z and GPU-Z, Hardware Monitor 107/etc.
Good luck
Paul

P7N Diamond vP07 and v1.42 Beta

These BIOS' are for the P7N Diamond and the P7N Diamond ONLY.
I've attached the performance BIOS vP07 and beta BIOS v1.42. Please provide feedback on these BIOS' as they can help other users in future.
>>Click here for v1.42<<
NOTES:
Do not load optimized defaults with the performance BIOS, as it will set memory timings to 4-4-4-18 1T and no memory can handle these tight timings at high speeds, without excessive amounts of voltage.
The beta may be missing options, as they aren't always complete BIOS'. But they tend to fix quite some issues.
*** Flashing either of these BIOS' are at your own risk. Do not complain if you end up with a paper weight! ***
*** Do not post problems/queries in here! All non-feedback related replies will be removed with/without warning! ***
Flashing the safe way:
NOTE: Use second mode from the Tool, (Point to BIOS file directly). Extract BIOS from archive and point to the BIOS file.

Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
The 1.1B4 BIOS has been quite good. Using it, I've been able to bench my Q6600 at 4.05ghz (450mhz FSB) and find stability at 3.6ghz (400mhz FSB) with +.25000 vCore. However, I know my chip is capable of being stable at 3.6ghz on less, and I'm hoping future BIOSes will only further improve OC results.
Thank you for the feedback.
Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
I recall there being quite a flurry of new releases leading up to the current 1.1B4 release, but there hasn't been anything since. Do you have any word on when we can expect further BIOS developments for the P7N Diamond.
I'm not quite sure, but I will continue to check and upload the new betas as they come.
Quote from: theYipster on 18-March-08, 00:11:56
Also, while many of us have been able to zone in on stable FSB Term and GTL Ref voltages, the meaning of the numeric, non-direct-voltage settings remains a mystery. Have you been able to find out any more information about these settings and how they relate to an actual voltage?
I'm still waiting for an answer on this...

P7N Diamond overclocking Q6600

Hi all i would like to overclock my cpu now after having the P7N for over a month now and running everything standard. I have DDR2 800 Geil Memory which is running at 6-6-6-18. I have read that you need my VID which is 1.2750v. What would be my best settings? Any help would be great thank you.

Msi p7n diamond
Bios 1.2 (official)
Sunbeam core contact freezer (i saw on www.frostytech.com it was number one so i bought it
kentsfield q6600 vid 1.275 at (3.2 oc it ides at 37c if that helps any.) GO
Ocz ddr2 1066 2x2gb ram (4-3-3-8)
Ocz power supply 800 watt (85% efficiency) runs on a single volt rail, 60 amps
msi 2x8800 gts (g92)
320gb seagate 7200 hardrive
80gb seagate 7200 hardrive
blackline nzxt case, with a mess of fans. system idles at around 37 though i believe that's because of my videocard oc and the mass of a cooler i have
anyway thanks for replying, i was just wondering, i'm played around so much trying to get a stable 3.6 and i could get it to run stable for days on end until after like 10-15 minutes of gaming it would freeze, i could even run 3dmark and everything was fine.
the thing i don't understand is what am i supposed to set the fsb terminator to? I know the gtlreff volts have percentages to refer to but i have found nothing on the fsb term.
Thanks

P7N Diamond New Install Failure

Hi,
Just got all my new hardware and I can't get vista 32 to install. I can do whatever I need in BIOS, but as soon as I go to install Vista Home Premium(OEM) It does the loading files thing, then it has the Green bar you get before the gui comes up, and then the computer restarts. So I never make it to the GUI.
Things I've tried:
matching my Mem to manufacturer specs of 4-4-4-12 at 2.1V.
Tried on 3 diff Brand new drives - one at a time and w/ all 3.
Going to one stick of mem and trying diff slots.
Tried the other stick the same way.
I've also tried RAID 5 which was my original plan w/ these 3 drives. When I do that it gets just as far as before, but then I get a Blue screen, STOP, the Error is IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. And at the bottom it says nvraid.sys.
Any suggestions? Please help! I'm still using original BIOS 1.0
Q6600
MEM 2Gx2|CORS TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX
VGA EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR 8800GTX
MB MSI P7N DIAMOND 775 780ISLI RT
DVD BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S203N SATA LS %
PSU HIPER | HPU-5K880 880W RT

Update - still no luck. So I'm now running with Just one stick of mem.
Tried:
Moved my vid card to the second PCIE16 slot
Installed two diff IDE DVD drives to install from there instead of my Sata drive.
Heard about this as a possibility on diff forum.
Cleared the CMOS - but I didn't immediately do what Loonym suggested. Will try that next.
Tried loading Optimized Defaults, and Failsafe results - the Green bar lasts longer (8 times through) but still ends up going into continuous loop of reboot etc.
Next things to Try:
Loomyn's suggestion above.
Memtest - how do I create Bootable CD from ISO?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777 - not the part about 3Gigs, but maybe the OPK updates will help.
Also following Scuba's post - same thing going on there. He has a video posted if you want to see what is happening to me.

P7N Diamond rarely POST's

Hello all!! I’m having a problem with my PC booting. I had a stable PC for about 8 months (see sig below). Then I changed my video cards from dual PNY 9800 GX2’s to dual BFG 285 GTX OCX cards. Unfortunately I had some problems with the BFG cards and had to keep RMA-ing one of them (this is a long story). Regardless, the cards are fine now and the problem was corrected (this was a problem with the card(s) NOT my system).
Anyhow, along the way my system stopped POST-ing. I turn the system on, the lights go on, the fans whirl and I can hear drives spinning up but nothing else. I can do a hard re-start and the system will eventually turn on after 2 – 10+ attempts. If I reset the CMOS using the back button (with or without PSU plugged in) it turns right on BUT I have to reconfigure everything.
I’ve tried a TON of things in troubleshooting this thing and nothing works. I’ve tried reinstalling the BIOS and even that didn’t work. I didn’t do the BIOS update in DOS, I did it through Windows with some software. I would like to do the DOS install but I can’t my system to boot to a USB (I used the program I found on this website- the USB prep tool… I only get some sort of “NO MSI Product installed” error)
I’ve changed the battery on the board (twice) with no luck either. Checked all my connections, etc… My BIOS settings are all standard, no overclocking. The only thing I have going is RAID.
Needless to say, I’m running out of ideas… any suggestions
Thanks in advance for any help!!
GH

Quote from: Godhammer on 04-June-09, 00:56:02
I’ve tried a TON of things in troubleshooting this thing and nothing works. I’ve tried reinstalling the BIOS and even that didn’t work. I didn’t do the BIOS update in DOS, I did it through Windows with some software. I would like to do the DOS install but I can’t my system to boot to a USB (I used the program I found on this website- the USB prep tool… I only get some sort of “NO MSI Product installed” error)
First point that needs to be stressed is it's a safe practice to avoid updating any BIOS while in Windows. In fact, you should never attempt flashing BIOS from within Windows, and you probably should just uninstall MSI LiveUpdate. MSI should go so far as to discontinue it for the sake of all users. On the bright side, it looks like your BIOS update succeeded without issues (system is not bricked).
Quote from: Godhammer on 04-June-09, 00:56:02
My BIOS settings are all standard, no overclocking. The only thing I have going is RAID.
When you say BIOS settings are all standard, does this mean you manually set each parameter to a "standard" setting? Did you perform a CMOS reset after flashing BIOS? Did you enter the BIOS/CMOS menu and invoke the "Load Optimized Defaults" or "Load Fail-Safe Defaults" option? Could you please list the current values in your Cell Menu? Ironically, the P7N Diamond has a reputation for misbehaving under "default" parameters. With the earlier BIOS versions, many users have reported needing to apply a slight overclock (at minimum) in order to have stable POST and operation. It seems counter-intuitive that stressing the mobo would improve the operation stability, but that was the story. I'm still using a 1.2beta BIOS, so don't know if the more recent versions have addressed this. But it would be useful to know what parameters your system is trying to POST with (examples in my signature).
Quote from: Godhammer on 04-June-09, 00:56:02
MOBO: MSI P7N Diamond (1.3 BIOS)
CPU: E8500 Wolfdale Core 2 Duo @3.16 GHz (no OC… yet)
RAM: 8 GB OCZ Reaper 8500 (@ 800MHz not 1066MHz)
VID: BFG 285 GTX OCX (X2 SLI)
HDD: 4 Seagate Barracuda 500G 32M 7200 RPM Raid 0
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate Edition x64
CASE: Antec Nine Hundred
PSU: 1300 Watt (I can’t remember the name, shame on me!)
Lastly, could you provide some more detailed specs on your PSU? The 1300W sounds impressive, but sheer wattage doesn't necessarily imply a sufficient PSU. This is especially relevant for a system with dual 285GTX cards, 8GB RAM, and 4xSATA hdd. In particular please state how many +12V rails your PSU has and the maximum amps per each rail, max amps combined for all rails, and max amps total (for all voltages). My concern here is that the real root of your problem may be related to the PSU. You stated that the system ran perfectly before you replaced your previous video cards. I'm wondering if the new cards are over straining your PSU and causing intermittent issues at POST. Do you have 4pin ATX or 8pin EPS power connected to your mobo?

P7N Diamond + Q9450 - No go past 3.0GHz

My goal for this processor is around 3.4GHz since that is where I had my e6750 but I would love to see 3.6GHz. Unfortunately, I can not seem to get this thing to POST over 3.0GHz (1500MHz/375*8). For voltages I have set the VCORE at 1.25v, NB at 1.375v, memory at 2.1v, and FSB at 1.23v. I have tried setting the FSB at 1550, 1575, 1600, 1610, 1625, and 1650MHz with the same result every boot: a blank screen with no beeps whatsoever. Can someone please give me some tips and/or post their settings for this combo?
Thanks,
Joe

I am very curious if there's a few 'standard' settings I can try out to get my system oc'd to say 3.2Ghz (I'm not wanting to push the system):
MSI P7N Diamond mobo
Q9450 Quad-core processor at 2.66Ghz (stock)
4Gb OCZ reaper DDR2-1066
Antec 900 case
Antec Truepower Trio PSU - 650 Watt
MSI NX8800 GTS 512Mb videocard
2 SATA HDD's
2 DVD-rewriters
I've read all of the threads pertaining to settings people have used for which overclocks they've been trying but sadly I found them all lacking specifics for their setup.
Some mention a working setup, but forget to mention what speed those settings give exactly, others only give a few of the settings that seem to trouble them.
Is anyone here able to provide me with what exactly I need to change where, with the above info, and knowing I have the 1.2 BIOS from MSI - AMI, through the MSI LiveUpdate tool.
I am very aware it's not cookie-cutter and what might work for 1 person might not work for the next, but ballpark-values are fine (min-max settings, ...).
Edit : running XP Pro SP3
Many thanks in advance.

Vcore/VID P7N diamond

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