Vector smart object? Big deal.

My primary use for Photoshop is for producing illustrations rather than manipulating photographs. With that in mind, I don't understand the revolutionary nature of "Vector" Smart Objects, since once they land in Photoshop they cease to have any "vector" qualities. They can be resized, distorted, and made more or less transparent, which is fine, but all those things can be done to any raster Photoshop layer. So my feature request is: since Photoshop's Path tool can deal in vector art within Photoshop, why can't that facility be extended to the Smart Objects? I realize that what I am asking amounts to asking for Illustrator to be installed inside Photoshop, but why not? I think there was an app that worked that way-Deneba Canvas? I don't know, maybe only illustrators who work in both Photoshop and Illustrator would care about this, but I do a lot of it-produce an item in Adobe Illustrator for use in a picture, then copy and paste it into a scanned figure opened in Photoshop, then add shadows and tones. It would be helpful to be able to manipulate the vector art as vector art in Photoshop.

ya, you have to open it up in ai like the above post said if you want to edit it. but also one of the advantages to smart objects is that when you resize it, the quality remains unchanged as long as it is equal to or smaller than the original size. for example, if you design a button in illustrator, then you put it on a web page in photoshop and scale it down and hit enter, you can always make it bigger (up to original size) without losing quality. if you did this with a regular raster image you cannot size it up without losing quality.
the reason you cannot edit the vectors in photoshop is that vector and raster are different types of files. it's kindof like trying to edit videos in photoshop. just wont work. it'd be cool if you could though because i am in your shoes too.

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Hi Guys,
I am trying to make a text layer in photoshop and convert to a smart vector object, but it only gives me an option to convert to smart object, as opposed to vector smart object. The bad point about this is that the text becomes rasterised when exported to EPS or PDF (same with vector shapes within a smart object), unlike a regular vector layers which output correctly.
Is there anything im missing out on, or do I have to revert to importing all text from illustrator and set up my smart vectors like that?
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Bini

From an old thread in Windows Photoshop forum http://forums.adobe.com/message/3498406#3498406
Smart Object Layer resize three side by side three results. Open this link in a new tab http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/3000x2000.jpg
I resized up big time. Started by creating a 300x200 PSD file with three layers two shape layers and a text layer with layer style added. The layer style contained a stroke gradient overlay shadow and more. Fitst shape layer Pink Photoshop Cloud. Second shape layer Blue Photoshop Male shape. Top Layer Text JJMack. Link 138KB PSD file http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/logopsd.psd
here it is saved as Jpeg
I then Photoshop new Document 3000x2000 ten times the size. Did menu File>Place and placed in the losopsd.psd file just hit enter did not to any transform.
Then three times with the placed smart object layer the target I did menu Layers>Smart Objecj>New Smart Object via Copy. I now had three more copies.
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Menu File>Save followed by File>Close
I double clicked on the smart object icon on the middle copy in the layers palette
In Photosop menu Image>Size in the dialog checked Resample, Constrain and Layer Styles Bicubic set width 3000 click OK
Menu File>Save followed by File>Close
I clickcked once of the top copy in the layers palett, Then Ctr-T and changed the 100% in the width and height to 1000% and committed the transform
I selected the Left third rectangle 1000 Px by 2000 PX and added a layer Mask
Target middle copy Selected left 2/3 2000Px by 2000 PX and added a layer Mask Saved as PSD and Saved as Jpeg
Link to 15MB PSD http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/3000x2000.psd
Here is the Jpeg Link http://www.mouseprints.net/old/dpr/3000x2000.jpg Scroll the below image sideways to see how different the three are click on the jpg link to have your browser scale it down also note how scalling down seems to sharpen..

Vector Smart Object max resolution?

I know it looks a dumb question since its a vector file, but when I resize them really big they look less sharp.Is it just me?Or is there really a cap?
Ty in advance.

Well, then it has been rasterized already.
Just because it is named »Vector Smart Object« doesn’t proof a thing.
But quite probably it was vector content at some time, so You might
try getting that from the people/company that originally created it.

Program error when attempting to edit a vector smart object. Help?

I'm running Photoshop CS6 (13.0.1) 64bit on a MacBook Pro running OS X Lion. About 60% of the time when I try to double click a vector smart object instead of opening it up in Illustrator I get an error that says, "Could not edit original smart object because of program error." This most recent time it was a smart object from vector data I copied and pasted from Illustrator into Photoshop.
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Hi there,
I got this problem when I installed Adob master collection Over CS 5.
I had children book story storis which created in Adobe illustrator CS 5 and I created art boards in Adobe photoshop cs 5.
After installting CS 6 i tried to edit the smart objects and it was not opeinging the smart object file in Illustrator.
I did some tests.
1) Right click on smart object layer and click export contents. Save on desktopp or anywhere you want. (I saved on desktop)
2) I had this file on my desktop (Vector Smart Object10.ai) but it didn't show any icon, which program should open this type of file.
3) Double click on the file and it pop up a extension window 'Click on change and select adobe illustrator' and press OK.
4) Go back to your photoshop file and right click on smart object layer and click dit content. now this time it opens up assets in illustrator.
ENJOY!
www.4d-studios.co.uk

Is it possible to export Vector Smart Objects as vector SVG files from Photoshop CC 2014?

I have Vector Smart Objects copied from Illustrator and pasted into Photoshop. I would like to export them as vector SVG files (using Generator or Extract Assets). I can add the .svg extension to the layer and actually export an SVG just fine. The problem is any SVG I have exported have all been raster images. It defeats the purpose of having that as an option as far as I'm concerned.
I remember watching and listening to keynotes and other speakers at Adobe MAX 2014 who said it was so powerful and amazing to create SVG files from Photoshop. If we're still exporting raster SVG files from Photoshop...that's not very impressive or exciting--especially since this era of modern web development benefits greatly from using vector SVG files.
I understand that Shape Layers can be exported as vector SVG files but that seems very limiting. I also realize that users can create some impressive vectors in Photoshop, but that is not optimal. Illustrator is a better tool for creating vectors and I normally use Photoshop and Illustrator side-by-side. I know that vector SVG files can be exported from Illustrator but that isn't as user friendly and convenient as utilizing Photoshop > Generator > Reflow.
My idea was to create my assets in Illustrator, paste them into Photoshop as Vector Smart Objects, set up my layout, and then use the Generator/Reflow method or Extract Assets to get a new web design started.
Maybe I misunderstood what the speakers at Adobe MAX had said. Perhaps it's just user error and I'm just missing something simple (it happens).
Photoshop CC 2014 notes the following under Help > System Info:
Adobe Photoshop Version: 2014.2.2 20141204.r.310 2014/12/04:23:59:59 CL 994532 x64
Operating System: Windows 8.1 64-bit
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance for your time.

Not quite the same, but have a look at the new Libraries feature that came with 2014.2.2 I just tried it, and dragging a vector object into a library I created in Photoshop, was there in Illustrator. This happens without having to close and reopen Illustrator. Just use the drop down at the top of the Libraries panel (in Illustrator) to find your custom, or job specific library.

How to copy objects from Pages (5.5.1) and paste it into Photoshop as a vector smart object with high resolution?

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ghotiz wrote:
copy the image and have it in a high-quality PNG format that does not include the background from the Pages document.
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Are you viewing the display at 100%?
Photoshop's OpenGL-based image resizing algorithms are smoother and fuzzier than they used to be (or than they are with OpenGL disabled). What I'm getting at is that you may be perceiving fuzziness in the display that's not really there in the image.
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i'm getting furious when i'm bombarded with new options and messages that i should hurry uprading to CC when the CS 6 release is still buggy. Illustrator CS 6 is nearly inusable. When i double click on a vector smart object Layer Icon in Photoshop Ilustrator opens and... nothing happens. Please dont tell me to get subscription when i just payed 4000 € for a buggy Version of Creative Suite. Make it worth the money.
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J.

Hello thanks for your answers,
i posted this when i was upset because it was a very frustrating situation. I create Vector art in Illustrator and most of the times i just copy and paste them into Photoshop. I dont use Illustrator Cs6 because some Issues with the color Picker and because i Use Scriptographer alot. So i use Photoshop CS6 and Illustrator CS 5.
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Hi...
System: Win XP, CS4
Is it possible to copy a vector smart pbject from PS to AI? Note from PS to AI? HAve tried dragging and dropping... it doesn't seem to work.

If I'm understanding your original question, this answer is not correct. I had the same question as your original. "copying a vector smart object from PS to AI?"
This is the problem I was having and I only found one way to solve it. Would love it if someone could give me a quicker workflow. My solution seem tedious.
RECAP:
Problem: Vector object was originally created in photoshop and I want to bring it into AI as vector art.
Answer:
1. Convert the "vector object" in Photoshop to a "Smart Object" by selecting the layer, then go to Layer > Smart Objects > Convert to Smart Object
2. Double-click on the smart object's icon in the layers palette. This opens the object in a new Photoshop window
3. Choose File > Export > Paths to Illustrator... (Note: With the smart object layer selected, you can switch over to the "Paths" tab and see your object's editable path and name)
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Vector smart object? Big deal.

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