Vender return of capital goods in CIN(India)

Hi Experts,
     Cenvat account of Capital good posted (50%)   G/R stage and next April.
     How about vender return?
     Pls explain sinalio.(TRC)
Regards,
    Gaito

Hi,
There are two ways for vendor return.
1. return delivery:
Here you are posting the document with reference to the original GR document.If all the settings for CIN are correct then it will trigger the excise tab in the MIGO , check the duities and post the document.It will reverse the entries.
2.Return PO:
In this case you do the GR with 161 mvt. type followed by credit memo.
The system takes care of the CIN postings.
Cheers,
Satish Purandare

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Vendor Return for Capital Goods

Hi Gurus,
Morning all of you, In vendor return for Capital goods,
i have created Excise Invoice using J1IS T-code,
When i'm trying to Post it using J1IV, Surprisingly I am finding that RG23A fields are getting populated instead of RG23C.whereas my requirement is that instead of RG23A , RG23C should get populate, so that i can complete mt transaction.
plz suggest if any configuration has to be done for that, i have checked all configuration, i am finding correct from best of my knowledge.
Full points will be awarded.
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K singh

Thanks SAP Guru,
This problem is solve using ABAP coding,
anyway i am very much thankfull to all of your's valuable input.
thank you.
manoj

Procedure to return Excisable capital goods

Hi gurus,
I want to return excisable capital goods to vendor on which transactions MIGO, J1IEX, MIRO has been carried out. Can anyone guide me for the procedure?
Also as its stock is not maintained (i.e. directly procured for cost center) how I wil com to kno that it has been returned from system?
Thanks

Hi
There are two parts to it. One is reversal of the excise Cenvat credt availed on the capital goods and the other Debiting the vendor the returned goods.
With regard to Cenvat credit, if it is procured in the previous year, obviously the balance cenvat credit on the goods (50%) would have been availed in the current financial year. If it is not availed, avail the balance credit and reverse the 100% cenvat credit on the goods (as per Excise Rules). For availing the balance 50% credit, if the goods are procured during the year, use transaction code J1IH -> Differential Excise and then raise an excise invoice on the vendor through J1IS for the 100% of the ED amount. This will resolve the Cenvat reversal on the goods to be returned.
With regard to Debiting the vendor for the returned goods, raise a credit memo on the vendor (or ask for the credit memo document from the vendor and book the same). In this case you can credit the GL account to which the original entry has been made using MIRO earlier, with the corresponding Cost Center entered in the document.
Hope it is clear.
Regards,
Lakshmanan Krishnan

Goods Return for Capital Goods

Dear Experts,
I need correct SAP Process for the below scenario :
GRPO for Capital goods has been raised.
Incoming excise Invoice for the GRPO has been booked. While booking Incoming excise invoice, 50% of the Excise duties will be posted to Capital Goods On hold account defined in the GL Account determination.
Now due to some reasons i am raising Goods return for the GRPO raised earlier for the Capital Goods.
Then i am booking the Outgoing excise Invoice. But in the Outgoing excise invoice the 50% Of the excise duties posted to the on hold account is not reversed.
In outgoing excise Invoice,Only sales accounts defined in tax code will be credited and CENVAT Clearing account will be debited.
How to reverse the 50% Excise duties got posted in the On hold Account ?
Kindly mail some Valuable suggestions
Regards
New Age Bizsoft Solutions

Hi,
There is no defined process for returning capital goods.
While making the Incoming excise invoice Purchase tax accounts defined in tax code and On Hold account defined in GL Account determination will be debited for the 50% value.
While returning the same,in Outgoing excise invoice, sales tax accounts defined in tax code will be credited for the whole value.
After doing this, An adjustment journal entry need to be passed by crediting the On hold account and debiting the sales tax accounts defined in tax codes for only the 50% excise value.
By doing so our input and output for excise booking will balance.
Hope you got my view in it.
Regards
Ravindran Srinivasan.

Cenvat on Capital Goods Procurement (CIN)

Hi SAP Gurus,
With respect to the Capital Goods procurement in CIN, my client has requested the following process -
Capital goods have 5 years useful life and want to sell it after 3 years usage -
Excise on the Capital Goods = Rs.20,000/-
So this year Cenvat Credit = Rs.4,000/- and the next 2 years Cenvat Credit = Rs.4,000/- each
Total Cenvat credit = Rs.12,000/-
(which is calculated as 20,000 INR / 5 year * 3 year = 12,000).
But the Cenvat balance of Rs.8,000 [20,000 12,000] should be added back (cancel the offset) and it should be assinged to cost.
Is the above process possible in SAP..???
Can anyone please let me know.
Thanks & regards,
Chaps

Hi
I know the standard scenario for Excise and its related settings. Our system is also working absolutely fine for the 50% Cenvat credit utilization.
But the customer wants to have a process like that of as I had explained earlier.
Can you suggest whether it is possible.
Thanks,
Chaps

Capital goods purchase and return

Hi Sap guys,
Can anybody give me the steps of purchasing the capital goods and return of the same.Also give me the steps of debit and credit of cenvat
Best Regards.
Sandeep

List of Transaction Codes for Purchase of Capital Goods: -
1. ME21N u2013 Create Purchase Order (Acct assmt cat. - "A")
2. MIGO u2013 Goods Receipt against PO
3. J1IEX u2013 Post Excise Invoice
4. MIRO u2013 Enter Vendor Invoice
1. At the time of Goods Receipt of Capital Goods, Asset Account will get debited and GR/IR Clearing Account will get credited.
2. After posting the excise invoice that contains capital goods, the system posts half of the excise duty to u201CCENVAT Receivable accountu201D (Dr) and post the rest to a temporary offset A/c u201CCENVAT on holdu201D (Dr) and Credit CENVAT Clearing Account.
3. At the time of Invoice Verification, Vendor Account will get credited and Clearing Accounts (GR/IR and CENVAT) & VAT Accounts (if required) will get debited.
Vendor Return cycle of Capital Goods: -
1. MR8M - Cancel Vendor Invoice (If Payment is not done)
2. MIGO - Cancellation > Material Doc (GR Doc)
3. J1IEX - Post > Vendor Excise Invoice
4. J1IEX - Cancel > Vendor Excise Invoice
4. MIRO - Credit Memo to Vendor (If Payment is done)
1. At the time of Goods Return of Capital Goods, Asset Account will get credited and GR/IR Clearing Account will get debited.
2. After posting the excise invoice cancellation that contains capital goods, the system posts half of the excise duty to u201CCENVAT Receivable accountu201D (Cr) and post the rest to a temporary offset A/c u201CCENVAT on holdu201D (Cr) and debit CENVAT Clearing Account.
3. At the time of Invoice cancellation, Vendor Account will get debited and Clearing Accounts (GR/IR and CENVAT) & VAT Accounts (if required) will get credited.
In short Reverse all the entries
You can not show Return cycle as in case of RM since stock of Capital Goods are naot maintained.

CIN Setting for Capital goods (RG23C)

Hi,
Presently, after doing Goods Receipt (MIGO) when trying to update RG23C Part 1 in J1I5 with reference to the material document and choosing classification as ROP, the system doesn't find any data.
When trying to Capture Excise Invoice in J1IEX, the ETT comes GRPO whereas it should have been CAPE.
Can any one provide the complete setting details for handling of Capital goods as well as the configuration details for CIN Setting for Capital goods (RG23C)?
Thanks in advance
Note : Please search forum before posting.
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Jun 4, 2011 11:17 AM

Hi,
try to open now,
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Check it once again now
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Kailas ugale

Capital goods, during vendor return, Excise is getting post to RG23A instea

Hi SAP Guru,
I have very critical issue to be resolved immediately in the area of Excise for CAPITAL GOODS, please help! The things is....
1. At GR level using mvt 101, system is posting all BEDECSSECess to correct RG23C register, fine
Quality people have rejected goods, when Im trying to create vendor return delivery using......
1. GR (122) >J1IS>J1IV, using this process system is posting BED+ECS to RG23C but SECess to RG23A, I wanted to know why SECess is getting post in RG23A instead RG23C. plz suggest if any config. chages to be done.
Or
2. When I am trying GR (122) along with all Excise parameters using enjoy MIGO( Return Delivery), system is throwing error "RG23C-AT1 amount 1600.00 is greater than the available amount 0.00". When I checked the relevant register I found out enough balance.
Or
3. After GR (122), when Im using J1IH(JV) method, system is throwing error like " Balance in transaction currency 'Message no. F5702'.
Now plz suggest the correct answer!
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K Singh
+91 9777299580

Hi Gurus ,
I hope you must be doing greate, steps are as follow which i'm following for vendor return and subsequent delivery for capital goods.
1. PO -> MIGO (101) -> Excise capute & Posting using J1IEX -> MIRO.
For excise, part1 & 2 to relevent register posting has taken placed.
Now quality dept. has rejected the goods, for which vendor delivery should take place.
2. For Vendor return Delivery
MIGO 122 w.r.t GR of 101-> Excise capute & Posting using J1IS&V.
For excise, part1is getting created using J1IS, J1IV is creating part 2, in Acct. doc. RG23C BED/ECS/HEC is being Credit and "PLA On Hold" is being Debited for BED/ECS/HEC amount.
3. For Vendor subsequent delivery, I have done the excise config. for Movt. 123 .
MIGO 123 w.r.t. GR of 122.
While doing GR for 123, system is not generating Excise screen.
any way ,After GR of 123, I have Capture Excise Invoice after inputting all relevent data, but while Posting, System is generating message that Part 2 is does not exist for vendor excise invoice.
Now i thinks my requrement is visible for your understanding to suggest me some valuable idea to resolve this issue.
if possible can plz drop a test mail to hksiva.manoj at gmail dot com for further consultation.
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K Singh

Excise is getting post to RG23A instead RG23C for capital goods return del

Hi SAP Guru,
I have very critical issue to be resolved emmediatly in the area of Excise for CAPITAL GOODS, please help! the things is....
1. At GR level using mvt 101, system is posting all BEDECSSECess to correct RG23C register, fine
Quality people has rejected goods,When i'm trying to create vendor return delivery using......
GR(122)>J1IS>J1IV,, useing this process system is posting BED+ECS to RG23C but SECess to RG23A, i wanted to know why SECess is getting post in RG23A instead RG23C. plz suggest if any config. chages to be done.
or
2. when i am trying GR(122) along with all Excise parameter, system is throwing error "RG23C-AT1 amount 1600.00 is greater than the available amount 0.00". when is checked the relevent register i found out enough balance.
or
3. After GR (122), when i'm using J1IH(JV) method, system is thowing error like " Balance in transaction currency 'Message no. F5702'.
Now plz suggest the correct answer!
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K Singh
+91 9940216442

Hi Datta, thanks for the reply
according to SAP Note 1062872 (2005B version) it reads as
"The excise register for excisable items of type raw materials/finished goods is currently set to RG32A Part I. When you create an out going excise invoice with these type of items, the accumulator for RG32A Part I will be increased."
I thought the same is applicable with SAP Business One 2007B version. However what you said might be correct. But the problem with one of my manufacturing client is whenever they raising an Outgoing Excise invoice they have registered numbers automatically be created on the pre printed invoice paper. where the invoice will be printed only with the qty, rate , price and register numbers rest of the information on the document is pre-printed. So they have a column called RG23C Part I / II where register numbers are automatically printed. But RG23C Part I & II are for "Capital Goods"
If I consider these manufactured items as "capital goods" then it will raise register numbers automatically. but this will not acceptable. correct me if i am wrong. so all of these items should be cosidered as Finished Goods in the item master data. if i do that again there is a conflict with their RG23C Part I / II on the pre-printed column and i wont be raising any register numbers.
Please update me on how should I deal with this issue
SV Reddy

CIN configuration for capital goods

Dear All,
I have to configure CIN for capital goods purchase. Please let me know the important configuration required for the same.
where we can set 50% on hold conditions ?
Regards,
Umesh

Hi,
1. for Capital Goods, first in J1ID miantain in material and chapter id maintain that material code with Assets.
2. In Create PO with Account assigment as Assets.
3. In SPRO, while maintaing specify Excise accounts per Excise TT as
CAPE          CR Credit     ONHOLD CENVAT on hold account
CAPE          DR Debit     ONHOLD CENVAT on hold account
CAPE          DR Debit     RG23AT1 RG 23 AT1 Account
CAPE          DR Debit     RG23BED RG 23 BED account
CAPE          DR Debit     RG23ECS RG 23 ECS Account
4. Now in PART2, RG23C Register type is updated for Capital Goods
5. The Excise Posting Entries must be like
During Excise Invoice Credit
                                    Cenvat Account           Dr.       (50%)
                                    Cenvat On-hold           Dr.       (50%)
                                    Cenvat Clearing                      Cr.
6. Check the Balance Credit Capital Asset T Code J2I8
Hope help u !
Regards,
Pardeep Malik

CIN : Capital goods reversal

Hi
Can someone give the steps for capital goods reversal process in CIN, with the transaction codes.
Regards,
R.Srinivas

see first u have to do cancellation of ur G R N doc in MIGO after that go to J1IEX here select POST & give vendor excise no. then press enter --> now in front of u a screen appears in which all details are displayed , now click on SIMULATE button on top , a small box appears in cenvat reversal is written for part1 & part 2 click on continue & then click on POST CENVAT Button.then u can check in T CODE = FB03 Ucan see that all ur J1IEX Entries i.e CIN entries are reversed , tell to Check in FI FOR T CODE FB03 .
reward for efforts.
sap11
Edited by: sap11 on Jan 24, 2008 10:49 AM

ED configuratin for Capital goods

I have a problem in calculation of Excise duty with respect to capital goods.
Our client wants to Create a new tax code ......though which they can claim the .....Input of 50% Excise duty this year and 50% next year,( for that he want to update two different GL accounts for these percentages) and 4% VAT on it.
EX:
The new tax code for 12.36% of excise duty + 4% VAT, required in a single tax code. (This 12.36% ED -- 50% this year and 50% next yr)
Required for the following scenario
Suppose Base AMC valve is          Rs.10000/-
12.36% of Excise duty which is     Rs.1236/-
4% of vat on Rs.11236/- which is    Rs.898.88/-
Total amount including taxes Rs.10000 + 1236 + 898.88 = 12134.88
As the client is not using CIN, how to configure this scenario. We are on ECC 6.0
Thanks in adv, points assured.,
Sri

Hi,
There is no defined process for returning capital goods.
While making the Incoming excise invoice Purchase tax accounts defined in tax code and On Hold account defined in GL Account determination will be debited for the 50% value.
While returning the same,in Outgoing excise invoice, sales tax accounts defined in tax code will be credited for the whole value.
After doing this, An adjustment journal entry need to be passed by crediting the On hold account and debiting the sales tax accounts defined in tax codes for only the 50% excise value.
By doing so our input and output for excise booking will balance.
Hope you got my view in it.
Regards
Ravindran Srinivasan.

CENVAT reversal of capital goods after Vendor payment

Hello all,
I want to reverse CENVAT for capital goods. In this case, MIRO is already done and Vendor payment is also carried out.
Please suggest the steps by which I can reverse CENVAT properly.
Kapil

Hi,
Refer thread for option
return material to vendor after IV is done + CIn
Regards,
Biju K

4 Entries for 1 purchase of capital goods

Dear Gurus,
I am Purchasing excisable Capital Goods ( Either from local or Import Vendor). In both cases in RG 23 c Part 1, register shows 4 entries for only one capital purchase. BUt in RG23part2, system is considering first entry out of 4 entries from RG23CPart 1.WHy it is like that ?.
What is the CIN Rule for AED. is is 50 % this year and 50% next year or full 100 % in current year in case of capital goods AED.
Please Help.
Thanx in advance.

As per Std. rule u can take the ADC credit 100% in the Current year for Capital Goods.
Biswajit

Unable to avail credit 50% balance of previous years credit on capital good

Dear All,
Cenvat on Hold :
Unable to avail credit 50% balance of previous years credit on capital goods.
When Capital On-Hold is taken for a year(for vendors) and selected a Vendor and when Transfer Credit is clicked,the error message appears.(TCode - J2I8)
Cannot Reconcile : Crossed Return Date, please Reverse
Message no. 8I582
Pls guide.......
Regards
Sachin

Hi,
The above error message looks to be a strange one in J2I8.
As per the above message, check whether there is any pending subcon-challans due for reversal using J1IFR transaction.
Also check whether you are getting subcon challans in J2I8.
Finally, check whether any SAP notes are available.
Thanks & Regards,

Vender return of capital goods in CIN(India)

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