Vendor return process

Hi ,
Can anyone please tell me when do we use delivery type RL and when delivery type RLL during vendor return process. I am having some PO s in the system for which return is done with some deliveries having delivery tepe RL and some RLL.
Thnaks
Rohit Chavan

Hi Rohit,
I checked existing deliveries in our sandbox system and I found out:
- "RL" delivery type is used if you create the delivery with reference to a return PO item (mvt 161)
- "RLL" is used if you create return delivery from MIGO (A02-R02) (refering to the material document of GR) and check the "Via Delivery" checkbox (mvt 122)
What is the difference between mvt 161 and mvt 122 return, youcan find many threads on the forum and you can also check SAP online help.
Regards,
Csaba

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Vendor return process clarification

Hi All,
We have created return PO for vendor.
While posting goods receipt system is asking excise invoice no and date, which excise invoice no has to be entered ?
and after posting we have to go to J1IS transaction and adjust duties for return process.
Over here the duties are not flowing in J1IS transaction.
Please throw some light.
With Regards,
Vijaykumar P

Taxes are not flowing in J1IS transaction.
While doing J1IS , Click on the "Get Excise Invoice" Button on the header screen menu, This will open up a screen for you to select the appropriate Incoming invoice for reference, the base value will be picked up from this .
Also Check the configuration setting SPRO-Logistics General-Tax on Goods Movements-India-Basic Settings-Maintain Company code settings-No. Exc Sel & ExSelDays columns against your plant.
Check below link widely discussed subject,
[Vendor Return Process |Re: Vendor Return Process]
[Return to vendor (Excise material)|Return to vendor (Excise material)..?]

Vendor Return process in case of Import Goods (Excisable)

Can anyone provide me the complete process details with configuration in case of Return of Import Goods to Vendor?
The scenario is we have received the goods from an overseas Vendor by availing the benefit of CVD and we have made payment to the Vendor. Now the goods need to be returned back to the Vendor overseas.
Thanks in advance

Import Vendor return is like re export from business point of view.
You can follow export sales process in sap.
What i suggest is for example if it is raw material you can create a bom with parent material as X-01,child material as Y what
you are returning to vendor.
Note: Create parent material as HALB with sales view & accounting view with valuation of raw material.
Do production goods receipt,it willl bring stock to parent material.
Create customer for vendor.
Adopt export sales process,create a sales order,delivery,billing,invoice,excise invoice,ARE1.
Note : Discuss with FI consultant/core team take care of accounting effects in billing.
Clear balances for customer or vendor using F-53 or F-58.
Note : You need to tell excise/submit documents telling it is not actual export.
or
If you opt for purchasing route,then there is lot of customs formalities to be completed & also need to pay duties taken credit,depends on value of goods if it is high, you can opt for import vendor returns or ask vendor for debit memo which will be adjusted with future purchases against same vendor
I also asked same question in forum, refer link for solution [ Import material - Vendor returned(Indian scenario) |Import material - Vendor returned(Indian scenario);

Vendor Return process with order type ZPO - movement type 161

Dear Friends ,
Here is my question
There are two scenarios for vendor return
while UD and stock posting , we directly post the stock to vendor return 121
but what is the process for vendor return after we move the stock to blocked stock and then return to vendor
I tryed to create new PO with order type PO return , when do the migo GR system always propose 161 and creating inspection lot
how to stream line the process without inspection lot
Thanks & Regards
Raj

Dear Gajesh,
many thanks
but when i enter the Retrun PO in MIGO system automatically propose the movement type 161 , is there any way to change the movement type , is it standard sap settings
Please advice
Thanks & Regards
Raj

Vendor return process for consignment stock not yet own by you

Hello guru,
I need some help from you on the following type of vendor return.
We receive vendor consignment goods into our warehouse and we notice we would like to return back to the vendor after several defects
defect were spotted few month later, how to execute vendor return like this given that the stock still own by the vendor
in accounting perspective?
Should I just create another PO and flag the return indicator and perform a movement 161 in MIGO? Is this method workable way
of doing this?
What if we need a delivery document to be generated after 161 movements is posted in MIGO?
Appreciate it.
Tuff

Hi,
   The vendor consignment stock has no accounting impact till the stock is issued to own stock or consumed (411K or 201K movement).
   Standard SAP recommends to use direct return delivery using 122 movement in MIGO to return the consignment stock material back to vendor.
   If you still wanted to proceed with return PO, then maintain the message ME640 as warning message (W) in the path: OLME - Environment Data - Define Attributes of System Messages - System messages. Now, create a return PO and create GR against the return PO.
   If you want proceed with SD route for returning to vendor, refer the thread: Return PO with Text material shipping tab
Regards,
AKPT

Vendor return Process - Capture of delivery costs

My client has a scenario of vendor return with PO, where we indicate that the PO item is a return item. We use VL120B to create the DO and then do a PGI.
You can do the Vendor return with transaction MBRL as well. The accounting postings in this case will reverse the entire value including the delivery costs.
I do not have the same provision for PO returns. When we return the item through PO indicator, how to ensure that the item is return at WAC ?
Returning the item at Purchase Price without consideration of the deliver costs, will result in high WAC. How to resolve this issue. We cannot put negative in the condition type also, because system gives an error saying negative delivery cost is not allowed.
Could anyone advise on this?

Hi Bala,
Did you get a solution for this issue? I am facing the same problem and would be very grateful for any information.
Regards,
Nisha

Vendor return

Dear gurus
Please give me over view of vendor return process with excise.
if received the goods and posted the excise part II also , then what is the procedure for return the goods to vendor.
Regards
srini.

Hi Srinivas,
Follow the vendor return cycle process as mentioned below
Procedure to return stock to vendor
If LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
If LIV and Payment to Vendor is not done then
1. MIGO > Return delivery > Material Document (Here refer GR doc, system will determine mvmt type "122" automatically)
2. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 122 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
3. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
4. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Original PO.
hope this will help you
regards,
Patil

Shipping conditions not determined for 'Vendor return PO'.

Dear Frens,
I have completed successfully vendor return process CONFIG.
Still system is not determining the Shipping details in PO.
I created Plant without copying from standard plant. Any settings missing due to this?
What might be the reason, can please advise.
Regards.. RAMAN.

Please find the Error details as below:;
Regards,, RAMAN
No shipping data could be found for item 00010
Message no. ME393
Diagnosis
The system attempted to determine certain shipping data for returns item 00010 (e.g. the responsible sales organization and the shipping point). However, the system was not able to find the relevant information.
Possible reasons:
The vendor's customer number does not exist
The material master record does not exist or has been flagged for deletion
The data on the sales organization, the distribution channel or the division is missing for the plant
a shipping point could not be determined
Procedure
If the message is a warning, you can continue your processing.
If it is an error message, you cannot do so.
If necessary, check the settings for the plant in Customizing for Logistics (General).

Vendor returns with delivery(new delivery type)

Hi,
I configured vendor return process with delivery. it's working fine with delivery type RLL but when I try to copy "RLL" and create new delivery type it's still picking delivery type "RLL" and not the new delivery type.
My configurations
1. Create new delivery type copy of "RLL" - LE - shipping - new delivery types
2. Assigned new delivery type to all the plants - MM-Purchase- purchase order - return orders.
Am I missing something?
Regards,
R.S
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Dec 21, 2011 11:04 PM

I found the missing config. delivery type determination for outbound delivery was missing. It's working fine now.

Return Process Brazil

Hi Experst,
we are implementing SAP in a Brazilien plant.
We are struggeling with the vendor return process. Who knows how exactly it works.
Normally we do it via quality notification and create a redelivery. Then do VL02N and post issue.
But for brazil this process doesn´t work because of the nota fiscal.
I have a PPT (Best Practice) who describes the process at a high level.
Does anybody knows how it works?
As far as I know you can do the following:
Post MIRO --> J1B1N and then MIGO with movement type 122. But does this really works?
Do we need a return PO?
Thanks
Alex

Hi,
Before struggling with the vendor return process,just know concept behind vendor return process.
For example if you procure a material like Oring 1000 quantity and you are procuring this material very rarely and you used 900 quantity in your company during production and now 100 quantity are in stock. If you have no use of that material Oring further (if you feel and business needs) and now want to dispose ,you have two options .
1. just sell it.
2.Create return PO to return material to vendor if you have good terms with vendor.
Movement type 161 is used for special purpose. If you want to return some material to vendor from your stock (those materials are there in the stock ),So you can create a PO for returns and do MIGO with 161.
Movement type 122 is used if we do GR against a PO with 101 and if we want to return the material to vendor (what ever may be the reason like quality is not good , package condition is not good , not happy with any condition etc) with respect to the same PO.
NOTE:
Movement type 102 is used to cancel the GR (which created with Movement type 101) and this is
used to just cancel the GR.
Regards,
Biju K

Rounding Difference unequally distributed in items in J1IS in Vendor Return

Hi,
In Vendor Return process, while creating excise invoice in J1IS the total value is rounded off.
The system is rounding off and posting the entire difference amount to first line item only. For example, if there are four line items with SECess value 0.2 so that the sum of SECess for all four line items is coming as 0.8 (0.2*4). After posting the transaction, the system is rounding this value 0.8 to 1.0 and posting this difference to first line item only and the value of SECess of the first line item becomes 0.4 (0.2+0.2) and for the remaining 3 line items the value of SECess remains as 0.2 only. Similarly, the same thing is happening with the value of ECess also where the system is again posting the entire difference amount to first line item only.
Is there any method by which the rounding difference can be either posted to a different G/L account or distributed equally to all items of invoice?
Please provide any idea to resolve this issue.
Thanks in advance

Can I have an answer, please?

Vendor Return Delivery Process

Dear All,
Kindly listout the process of Vendor Return Delivery for the Subcontracting Purchase process...
Scenario:
MIGO (GRN) qty : 4 EA (Main material) (sub contracting challan reconciliation done for the full required sub materials)
Reworkable Qty: 1 EA (Found by Quality)
Return Delivery : 1 EA (in Movement type 122 through QM side so that the Main material only will remove from our stock)
Now while sending this return delivery Main Material to the Sub contractor what could be the official document will be sent
along with.
Regards,

Hi
This one defective item has to be sent to subcontractor for rectification .. right !!!
You have to again go for subcontracting cycle .... Here BOM will be recursive .... Vendor most probably will do it for free ... so u have to go for free PO or just put say 0.01 as amount. .... do MB1B 541 ...create a subcontracting challan....do GR and reconcile the challan ....
Now the catch .... how to differentiate rework material ....
You can create a new PO doc type ... as "JW or SC Rework" ... Create rework PO in this doc type ...

Returns processing to vendor

Hi gurus,
can any body explain me abt returns process to vendor in the material management.
Thanks in advance..
regards,
vikram.

hi
Procedure to return stock to vendor
f LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
if LIV and Payment to Vendor is not done then
1. MIGO > Return delivery > Material Document (Here refer GR doc, system will determine mvmt type "122" automatically)
2. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 122 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
3. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
4. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Original PO.
Note: - Excise Transactions to be followed if CIN functionality is in use.
ACCOUNTING ENTRIES
The cycle flows like this;
At the time of GR (MIGO);
Stock A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
Excise Invoice Posting (J1IEX);
CENVAT Receivable A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
At the time of LIV (MIRO);
Vendor A/c - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
At the time of Vendor Return (MIGO);
Stock A/c - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
Excise Invoice for Vendor Return (J1IS & J1IV);
CENVAT Receivable A/c - Cr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
At the time of Credit Memo (MIRO);
Vendor A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
regards
kunal
Edited by: kunal ingale on Jan 8, 2009 12:37 PM

Return process in Third Party system

Dear Friends,
Please suggest me the complete process of return under Third Party Order system, with T codes and paths,
Regards,
Atul

Hi ATul
Officially the return process is not supported by standard SAP ERP system for the third-party process.This functionality was never designed and is not supported.
The note 751609 is the official statement of SAP to this problem.
But any return goods to vendor from customer can be settled through credit notes.
The process is to first pass a credit memo to Vendor and after the process the with reference to Sales order a third party credit memo can be issued to customer
Hope this will help you.
Regards
Ramesh

Return process in Third Party Sales

Hi ppl need some help,
In Third party Sales what happens if certain goods supplied by the Vendor to the customer are 'Defective' & are to be returned by the customer.
Does the customer return it to the Company to which he placed the order or he returns it to the Vendor.
How can we configure this process in SAP to settle the billing & issue the credit memo to the customer?
Shilpi

Hi Shilpi,
third party Return process you can configure like this,
Take return goods from ur customer, Your customer will return goods to you and not to vendor, remember one thing ur cutomer doesnt know who is vendor.
Create CR with refeerence to RE. Because RE will contain that Product and quantity which you ar getting back from the Customer and that you have invoiced the customer.
E.G. If you Sent 2 Quantiy of Materail XYZ at 50 Rs each to the customer, but you Got invoice from ur vendor at 40 Rs Each.
and if customer retuirn 1 quantity u have to return him 50 Rs and not 40 Rs.
So Create CR with respect to RE.
Hope this will help.
Revert back if u need any further help.
Thanks,
Raja

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