Verizon does not want to honor early termination fee waiver! ANY ADVICE??
So in september of 2013 I contacted verizon to complain about lack of service in my area, I finally decided to complain after my phone dropped a very important phone call I was having. After speaking with a verizon representative they issued a support ticket which came back saying I do in fact live in a marginal coverage area, the verizon rep offered a solution to me which was for me (and also noted on my account) to be able to to cancel my verizon service at any point and I would not be charged an early termination fee. Between that day in september of 2013 and July of 2014 I had kept my verizon service as I tried to find a good phone company I would be able to switch to, I had also been able to do an upgrade on two of my lines as a verizon rep reccomended I take advantage of the free up grade to an iphone 5c. Now with all that that's happened, I spoke to two different verizon representatives a few days before I switched over to T-mobile to make sure that my early termination fee will still be waived. I was assumred by BOTH reps that my fee will be waived with one of them literally telling me to ignore my next bill that will appear in the mail, sure enough I have received a bill of over $1,300 from verizon. I contacted verizon today about the bill and the person I spoke to told me the early termination fee waiver does not apply to me as I only had 3 months from september 2013 to cancel my lines.
First of all the original rep who put the note on my account did not tell me anything what so ever about having a 3 month window to cancel.
Secondly, all the different verizon reps I talked to after that time in september all assured me that the early termination fee still applies to me.
Thirdly, Just a FEW days before I cancelled my service I was told that I will NOT be liable for the bill the comes from my cancellation because of the termination fee waiver I had on my account.
Verizon is trying to cheat me out of my money, I have been a loyal customer to them for over 4 years. This is unacceptable and should be no way to treat a customer after being told by verizon reps I do not have to pay that bill.
Has anyone been in this situation and if so how did you resolve it. Verizon doesn't seem to be willing to listen to what I'm saying despite the multiple notes on my account.
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I definitely don't want you to feel like you are being taken advantage of. I will find out what is going on and get to the bottom of this for you. I am sorry to hear that you ended up leaving Verizon. I hope at some point in time you decide to come back to us. I would like to take a look at your account in depth. Please follow me and select the option to send me a private message. I have already followed you.
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For some reason, my previous posting now says it is an unauthorized one and it cannot be accessed. I'm posting about a case of my girlfriend who upgraded to iPhone 5S 32G ($299.99+26.62) on December 23, 2013 with the 2-yr contract and had to cancel on January 7, 2014 since she had to leave the country. It would have been nicer if the cancellation was within 14 days, then she could simply cancel the contract and return the device without the early termination fee $350. Unfortunately, it was not the case, and she had to pay the early termination fee $350, the upgrade fee $35, and the amount for the last month usage. Everything was paid off as the terms and clauses said, and until that time, everything was fine: paid the gross amount of $299.99+26.62+350+35+more unfortunately, but kept the phone at least.
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Thanks for answering. My posting had been blocked for some time, so I thought Verizon simply did not like the posting. Now I discovered this posting was re-opened.
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