Version Name to File Name

I have been able to maintain the info that I want in "Version Name", and would now like to move that to the "File Name" field. I have not been able to find a technique in Aperture to make this change. I could export, then import with the new file name, but I have hundreds of photos in different projects that I want to change. Does anybody have an idea how to do this?

Are your photos referenced or managed? Referenced photos are kept on a hard drive of your choice and managed photos are stored in the Aperture library. Once I know this, I can give you specific instructions.
Dan

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Good evening. When I try to rename a master file or export a master file, it only allows 9 spaces for my new name, even though Aperature 3 allows many more spaces than that for version names. This creates a lot of problems and headaches for me.

Good evening. When I try to rename a master file or export a master file, Aperature 3 only recognizes the first 9 spaces for raw .NEF files, even though it easily uses twice that many spaces for version names. I have a system in place that works really well for me, wherein by changing the file name I can recognize what's important to me just by glancing at the file name, no matter what system it is in, I do not have to open or mouse over anything to know what the file is. My files also arrange themselves in order no matter what file system they are in. Can someone please tell me if there is a setting, or something I am doing wrong, that prevents me from using a longer Master file name. I can't be the only person who would like to have his Master File names correspond to the name that appears in the Aperature library, and would like to use at least 16 spaces (numbers, letters, etc.)
Thanks,
Photo Al

Hi Frank,
As you suggested, I am attaching several screen shots. In the first one you can see how I set up my preset. I used "Custom Name" and "Counter" with a dot between the two drag ins, followed by "D90". I also have a dot to seperate the 8 digits in the Custom Name and make it easier to read.
I then click "OK" which takes us to the second screen shot. Here you can see that in the Example File Name everything looks perfect, and you can see I have clicked on "Apply to Master Files".
In the third screen shot you can see that the version in my library did in fact change correctly. With the "mouse over" pop up screen you can see, however, that the Master File name was changed to "1933.1017.NEF". It failed to carry the "12D90" and if I go to where my masters are stored that is exactly what the name was changed to.
In the fourth screen shot I attempt to export the master. You can see how my "Version Name" is set up.
And finally on the 5th screen shot you see in the File Name Example the name "1933.1017.NEF" once again, which when I export the master is exactly how the name will appear. Since I will export more than one file at a time , a (1) and a (2) etc., will appear at the end of the names because all the files are being given the same "1933.1017.NEF" name.
I hope this reply does a better job of clarifying my problem. I am anxious to see if this is something I simply misunderstood, or if I am simply doing something wrong.
Thanks,
Photo Al

Version Name vs File Name

When I import files, the result seems to adhere to the Version Name I enter in the Input Inspector panel.
But then, when I'm in Brower Line Mode, I see that the Filename reflects projects I imported a week ago, alongside the correct Version Name.
Should I care? What am I missing?

Hi,
Please keep in mind that we are communicating with each other through a very thin wire: strings of words you type show on my screen. Short strings. We use terms with care in order to make our communication possible.
"Orthodox" is a strange way to put that. "Correct" is the term I would use.
"HUD" means Heads-Up Display. "Brick" refers to the Adjustment panes that show stacked in the Adjustment Inspector. The Aperture glossary is here.
In order for any of us to answer your question -- which we'd like to do -- we need to know to what you refer. Even though you've asked and re-asked, I still can't tell what you are asking.
We know what List View is. It can have columns that show the Version Name and the File Name.
The Version Name is determined by the File Naming Preset you use when you import. The File Naming Preset is selected in the "Rename Files" section of the Import Settings. You can rename Versions at any time.
The File Name is the name of the Image's Original. You can change this on Import to match the Version Name specified File Naming Preset by checking the box "Rename Original File". File names cannot be readily changed. (You must use "Metadata➞Batch Change➞Version Name Format" and check "Apply to Original files".
Does that help resolve your issue?
--Kirby.

File name, filename, image name, version name???

Hi guys,
All above terms are used in Aperture 3 Help. When I go to the Metadata Inspector/General the only field available is Version Name.
Do they all mean the same?
Thanks,
Raphel

Aperture is a database. The core record in Aperture is the Image. The database is a list of Images, with a whole bunch of data about each Image stored alongside the Image as one record . (You can get some sense of this by clicking Photos at the top of the Library tab of the Inspector and changing to List View.) Apple doesn't like the word "database"; Aperture databases are called "Libraries".
Every Image has a Master. The Master is a file. It is the image-format file that you imported into the Aperture Library. Those files have names. That is refered to as the File Name.
When the User Guide needs to indicate the inclusion of a file name in a field or as a variable, it is written as "filename". This is, I'm pretty sure, now standard practice (e.g.: "Insert the file name in 'filename'.").
The Image is created from a Master + Version pair. The Version is, literally, a text file of proprietary instructions that tells Aperture how to adjust (hence "adjustment" in Aperture, and not "edits") the Master to create the Image. Every Image has a Version (and a Master), but the Version of the first Image created from the Master has no instructions (i.e.: "Don't make any adjustments") and is treated as though it is invisible. The default name of the Version is the file name of the Master. The name of the Version is used as the name of the Image. You can use any name you want for your Versions.
On the Metadata tab of the Inspector you can have shown:
- the Version Name. It is editable.
- the File Name. This is the file name of the Master file. It is the name used by your OS to reference the file. To change it, you must go to "Metadata→Batch Change". You should never change the file name of any Master except through Aperture. It is possible to use Aperture completely and never change a Master's file name.
To see both of the above in one Metadata view, change the Metadata Preset (using the drop-down) to "File Info".
Rest assured this is a confusing topology, and is not spelled out anywhere I have seen. This is just what I understand from using Aperture. (If anyone knows better, please speak up.)

How to set Caption from Version Name?

I am looking for an automated/batch method to write Caption from Version Name for thousands of photos.
HAVE
File Name: P1001.RAW
Version Name: Red apple
Caption:
WANT
File Name: P1001.RAW
Version Name: Red apple
Caption: Red apple

http://homepage.mac.com/jlarson7/metadata/index.html has the following script, which may be closer
==============
tell application "Aperture"
tell library 1
tell project "untitled project"
tell image version "image001"
--set value of IPTC tag "Caption/Abstract" of image version "Canon 1Ds" to "hello"
--the above won't work IF the tag doesn't already have a value because the class doesn't exist until it does. Therefore you have to make the class then set its value. See the next tell block.
end tell
tell image version "image001"
make new IPTC tag with properties {name:"Caption/Abstract", value:"hello"}
--this line will work every time even if a value for the tag exists or not.
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell
==============

Import iPhoto Title as Aperture Version Name?

QUESTION: How do you import your iPhoto library such that the Titles you've applied in iPhoto become the Version Names in Aperture?
DETAILS: Upon import, Aperture ignores my custom iPhoto Titles ("Lunch at Summit", for example) and replaces them with the original file name (DSCF2966, for example). I hate looking at a screen full of DSCxxxxx names. Worse, I've spent a lot of time titling my pictures in iPhoto. I don't want to lose that work.
BACKGROUND: In iPhoto, I typically Batch Change a just-imported set of photos, setting the Title to nothing. Then I give meaningful names to pictures that I care about titling. This way, I reduce visual clutter on the photo display; any title text I see is there because I typed it in. When I try this trick in Aperture, it displays "<untitled>" for any pictures I remove the camera's DSCxxxxx from.
QUESTION 2: Is it a bad idea to get rid of the camera DSCxxxx Version Names?
I've experimented with the Import settings, searched these forums, the web, and the Aperture help files, to no avail.
Thanks!
David Long

Kirby, thanks for your helpful response. I just experimented with the Version Name field in the iPhoto import dialog and found that setting Version Name to Version Name in the
File-->Import-->iPhoto Library...
import dialog still does not preserve the Titles from iPhoto.
However, using
File-->Import-->Show iPhoto Browser...
DOES preserve the iPhoto Titles. Unfortunately, this method loses much of the Places information in the iPhoto library. I describe which Places info gets lost in this forum post:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11229662#11229662
So, this leaves us with a conundrum:
-If we use the "Show iPhoto Browser..." method to import, we retain our Titles but lose our Faces and Places data.
-If we use the "Import-->iPhoto Library..." method, we retain [most of] our Places and Faces data, but completely lose our Titles from iPhoto.
Either way, we lose some of the metadata work we put into our iPhoto library.
Anybody know a solution to this problem?
...David

Sharing photos by e-mail arranged by version name

I need to send all photos in one project from Aperture by e-mail arranged by version name. That is, all photos in the letter must be ordered by version name. When i use Share button Aperture generates an e-mail where the photos are mixed.
Does anyone know how to do it?

unfortunately the photos mix in the body of the email message...
probably my Aperture needs some additional adjustments...
You can "select all" in the body of the email message and "{right-click}➞View as Icon". This makes seeing the filenames easier, and makes it easier to rearrange the files.
Yes! when i do this i can see the filenames mixture: 3,5,8,1,2,6, etc instead of 1,2,3,4,5...
You can export the files to a Finder Folder, and then import them into a mail message. This may make ordering the files the way you want them easier.
You can ask your recipient to save the files to a Finder Folder (or equivalent) and sort on file name and view them from the Finder (using Quick View).
You can export as a Web Gallery and send the Web Gallery to your recipient with instructions to double-click it. This should open in their Web browser.
yes, i know it. but it's less convenient for me

Set version name from IPTC Title field?

I'm no AppleScript genius but I am sure there shouldn't be a whole lot of lines of code needed for me to grab a selection of images and change their version name to whatever the IPTC title field is.
basically right now the version names are messed up due to tampering but the IPTC metadata is fine, so i want the metadata to prevail over whatever aperture has as name & keywords.
Anyone got an idea of how to do this simply and quickly? I know I have a batch file renaming utility but I don't think that will help me in this case as aperture doesn't 'care' about file name does it?
This is on Aperture 3.5 (latest version)

Lightroom stores metadata in its own database, located:
[Username]/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Database.lrdb (Mac OS) file.
[Username]/My Documents/My Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Database.lrdb (Windows) file.
This is different to CS5/Bridge where XMP sidecars contain the metadata for proprietary raw files and in others (DNG, Tiff, jpeg, PSD) it's contained in the XMP headroom within the image file.

Version names ignored when relocating a library

I've run into some odd behavior when trying to relocate a library (to a set of folders on disk, rather than the managed library location) using the "Relocate Originals for Library" feature. I'm hoping maybe somebody here has seen this and can either let me know if I'm doing something wrong, or perhaps if this does in fact look like a bug in Aperture.
The relocation dialog provides a variety of options for automatically creating a folder structure (which works brilliantly) as well as naming the relocated original images. The issue I'm seeing is that when I tell Aperture to use "version names" as the naming method for the files, *some* of the relocated images ignore their version name and show up with their original file names. I have pored over the images and cannot figure out what the difference is between the images that would cause some to seemingly randomly ignore their file names. This happens even within a set of images shot with the same camera within minutes of each other, with similar adjustments applied. All are RAW images, but I'm not sure if that matters. But some are correctly named as their version name, and some have the original filename out of the camera.
Any ideas?

But some are correctly named as their version name, and some have the original filename out of the camera.
I am seeing this happen, when two or more selected images have the same version names. Then the second relocated image will be relocated with the original filename to avoid overwriting originals by a different file with the same name. Do you have image versions with the same name? Perhaps due to batch renaming them?

Batch Rename... how do I keep the version number [NOT the version name]?

Hi!
I've finally made up my mind about renaming my img. names in Aperture, and I would like to have something like "Travel San Francisco 2005 version x 1.CR2", where "version x" is the number which Aperture automatically adds whenever I make a change to an image. This is then followed by a number which automatically increases by one for every new image: 1, 2, 3, 4... etc. until there are no more images to choose from in the current project.
My problem is that I cannot figure out how to get Aperture to keep the, for me, very helpful "version 1, 2, ..." info attached to the images during renaming. In the Batch rename dialog box I am able to choose "Version Name" but that only gives me the current name of the selected image which I do not want. Aperture just replaces the "version x" in the image name.
Can anyone help me, or am I asking for something that cannot be done in Aperture?
Kind regards
Heine
DP 2GHz G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 3G Memory, BlueTooth, Aiport, 20" Cinema Display

HI, there:
I like answering these easy ones. Too often the questions regarding Aperture can't be solved as of yet becasue it's a bug or a lacking feature.
Anyway, when you import your files, look for the sidebar that has all the options on it. Look for a spot that says "Name Format." When you get there, there should be a drop down menu that will allow you to choose a variety of options. One of the options is "custom name with counter." Aperture will automatically assign each image a custom name and a numerical number starting with 1 and incrementing by 1 for a maximum of 999. You can change the options for this by selecting "edit" from the drop down menu.
Cheers

Batch rename of version name to fix a typo?

When I import images, a have Aperture give them a version name that is composed of the date, the master file name and a custom part. (I know this is a bit redundant, but hang on for now).
E.g. a version name would be "20101022-hopsack-DSC_1234". Note: no extension!
Now suppose that fter importing I notice that I've got the custom name wrong; instead of "hopsack" it should've been "debrem".
So I do a Batch change on those images, selecting the same version name format as in import, and type in the proper custom name, and voila, fixed, right? Wrong! The version name now contains the file extension, like so:
Rename -> "20101022-debrem-DSC_1234.NEF".
This is not what I wanted. Even worse, when you export this image with the current version name as file name, you'll get "20101022-debrem-DSC_1234.NEF.jpg". Looks rather stupid.
Why does the [master file name] building block have different behaviors in Import and batch rename? Am I missing something?
You could fix the version name with the Metadata inspector, but then you'd have to do it image by image.... OK for a few images, but not very practical for many.
So, apart from making no mistakes during import, are there other ways to fix this?
Oh, about that silly version name... I wanted to change the version names into something more sensible, but you can't batch rename images and re-use the custom name they have to make a new version name. So that would become a tedious process as well. Suggestion on how to handle this are welcome as well. (I could filter the images on custom name 1, batch rename with that name, then filter on custom name 2... and so on. Slightly less cumbersome.)
Hints? Tips? Suggestions?
Thanks,
Peter.

Sounds like the coder who implemented the code for this in file import didn't consult the corder doing it in the Batch change section
Seriously, this isn't right, it should be one way or the other, ideally there should be two separate options, one with just the filename part and another with the extension, Then you could put them together any way you like.
I'd send feedback to Apple concerning this.
As for the situation you're in now, can't think of any easy way to make the change you want to.
Sorry

Using Project Name in Version Name on import?

I'm just testing Aperture and I'm confused about the options available for renaming raw files on import.
Currently testing a setup like this using:
(Folder)2008
..(Folder)January
....(Project)Job1
....(Project)Job2
When I import files from my CF card I would like to rename the files using a format like this: YYYYMMDDProjectNameUniqueIDfromCamera. So a raw file from my 5D named MG4380.CR2 would be renamed 20080215Job14380.CR2.
Unfortunately, when I go to the Version Name options when importing I don't see the option to place the "Project Name" variable in the filename. This seems strange to me, especially since it is available in the Subfolders options.
Any advice or do I need to drastically change my current filenaming system if I want to use Aperture?
Thanks very much,
Andrew

I know what you're saying Ian, and I appreciate your help, but Master File uses the whole filename and I just want to retain the unique number created by the camera. This is what most other applications I've used like Photo Mechanic, Image Ingestor and Downloader Pro do, so I kind of expect it now.
When I was talking about retyping data, I meant that when I create a Project Name I have to enter the info manually (including the job date if I want to use that), and then when I rename the files I'm importing I have to re-type the same info again because I can't use the project name in the file name. So in the Project Name I have to enter the date manually, but when renaming the files it can pull the date from the camera exif data. So that's one place you could end up with a mismatch from a typo. Any then when I'm entering the jobname manually more than once there is another place to make a typo.
This may sound overly anal and I can assure you that I'm not a complete, ham-fisted illiterate prone to typing mistakes, but I have certainly made mistakes in the past that caused files to be place somewhere I didn't expect them to be.
In my perfect world I would be able to click "import" and then create a new project using a custom job name, but a date that is pulled from the camera exif like this YYYYMMDD_JobName, and then the images would be imported into a folder of the same name and renamed as YYYYMMDDJobNameUniqueID.
So I would only have to type the job name once, I would never have to manually type the job date, and my projects would automatically be sorted chronologically.
It seems very simple and makes sense to me, but maybe I'm weird
Cheers,
Andrew

Changing version name in Aperture?

anyone know how, if possible, to change the version name after a botched import?
Also I'm wondering if it is ok to post technical questions here since I never received any replies to my last (Oct) tech question
Thanks

And just remember changing the VERSION name does not automatically change the FILE name on your hard drive. File names can only be changed upon moving files in or out of the Aperture library. So, I always initially import every shoot into Aperture's Library and keep the files as MANAGED. During this import I make no changes to the file name. I then delete the bad images, rearrange any images if desired, then do a batch operation to change the version names (Metadata>Batch Change). Then I RELOCATE MASTERS (File>Relocate Masters) to move the files out of the Aperture Library to their final home on another drive. During this relocation process two things happen:
1. The actual file names are changed from the ones given by the camera to the version names I gave them in Aperture.
2. The files turn from being Managed to Referenced.
The result is that the file names on my hard drive match the version names in Aperture.
One of my hopes for Aperture 2.0 is to be able to rename actual file names from within Aperture, without having to do it by moving the files.

Facebook publishing uses Version name as description for Facebook uploads

Facebook publishing on Aperture 3 uses my Version name as the description on Facebook. Is there a way to keep it from doing that or change what metadata it uses for the description? I would love to be able to write a caption in Aperture and have that show as the description. Otherwise, I would like the description to be left blank on Facebook rather than putting the Version name.

I never found a fix for this. I also realized that if you ever delete the sync folder from Aperture, the pictures in Facebook will be deleted as well. So I've simply stopped using the Facebook publishing feature from Aperture. Now I'm back to the usual: export a folder of the images I want to upload, upload that folder to Facebook, and delete that folder after uploading it since I have the original file elsewhere.

Object name to Version name

We have been shooting a couple hundred product shots and populating the 'Object Name' field in the metadata. I want to export the images with the filename matching the Object Name but it is not an option as a metadata field in export.
Can I batch copy the 'Object Name' field into 'Version Name' so then it can be exported to the file name.?

This should get you started. It will set the version name to the IPTC object name if it is filled in.
tell application "Aperture"
set zSelection to selection
repeat with zImageVersion in zSelection
tell zImageVersion
if exists IPTC tag "ObjectName" then
set zName to value of IPTC tag "ObjectName"
set name to zName
end if
end tell
end repeat
end tell

Version Name to File Name

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