Vertical Menu styles in IE6

I have a vertical menu on this page:
Momentum
staging
It works fine in IE7, Firefox, Safari, Camino.
In IE6 it seems that the CSS styles for the text are being
ignored.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Lou

I commented out the line in "spryMenuBar.js" that says
"this.createIframeLayer(menu);" and this fixed the problem for me.
Good luck.

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/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
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hope you can help me. Thanks.
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/* SpryMenuBarVertical.css - Revision: Spry Preview Release
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/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights
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container and are same fixed width as parent */
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position: relative;
text-align: left;
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border-bottom-style: none;
border-left-style: none;
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border: 1px solid #999933;
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display: block;
cursor: pointer;
background-color: #EEE;
padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
color: #666600;
text-decoration: none;
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display: block;
cursor: pointer;
background-color: #EEE;
padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
color: #FF9900;
text-decoration: none;
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background-color: #999933;
color: #FFF;
background-image: none;
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background-color: #FF9900;
color: #FFF;
background-image: none;
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a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarVertical
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color: #EEE;
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background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
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z-index: 1010;
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the
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display: inline;
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Hello all,
I'm having CSS issues with a spry vertical menu bar. The Menu
is fairly basic but, it has some odd sizing requirements specified
by it's designer. The designer would like the sub menu items to all
have different widths that correspond to the actual content within
them. Here is sample.
http://staging.rm306.com/cycle/
The menu seen at the page above was not build with Spry. It
was build with another tool and has considerable problems with
consistent browser display.
Can anyone give me a short list of styles and where they
should be applied that might help me achieve this reletively simple
effect?
I've tried to use Spy menu bars in my projects in the past
but, there was always some sticking point. I'd like this time to be
the winner if possible.
Thanks for your time and patience in advance,
Kevin

The sample page I posted came after searching for an easy
"how to do it". The closest I found to a tutorial was this:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/spryte_menu.html
The author designs and implements a spry menu with Fire Works
graphics. The last section describes how to modify the existing CSS
for multiple levels. Yet I found the sample page easier to follow.
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Vertical Menu Bar with scroll

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Sure, I couldn't see from here...did you actually have a link to your page?
But you should have a comparable rule in the vertical menu:
ul.MenuBarVertical ul
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    left: -1000em;
    top: 0;
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You may need to actually specify submenus, too, but it should cascade from the above rule...
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Vertical Menu Bar with custom positioning

I am working on a site that uses the very old mm_menu script. It is a PITA to maintain and modify. However, it allows on thing I have been unable to accomplish with Spry Vertical Menu -- the second level menus appear in the same vertical space as the first level menu. The normal operation for such menus is for the second level to start more or less with the vertical position of the first level button. But this means the second level often drops far below the bottom of the lowest first level button.
Does anyone know of a way to customize where each second level appears (third and fourth are not needed)? Or some other UL/LI based menu code that can do this?

Hi Bob,
My first suggestion would be to re-order your navigation list to avoid the problem in the first place or figure out a different design altogether. By re-ordering, I mean place menu items with the largest submenu at the top, and those with the smallest at the bottom. Of course I understand there may be reasons not to do this, so here is what you can do to control where the menu positions itself. The vertical positioning is controlled by "position: absolute;" style in all <ul>s contained within a <ul class='MenuBarVertical'>. When you position something with absolute, it looks for its nearest parent that is positioned relatively (in this case the <li> items within <ul class='MenuBarVertical'>). from there you can designate pixels or ems to offset from the top or bottom of the parent. so an example of a way to do this is below.
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          <ul class='item_2'>
               <li>sub1</li>
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               <li>sub3</li>
          </ul>
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     <li>
          <a href='#' class='MenuBarItemSubmenu'>Item 3</a>
          <ul class='item_3'>
               <li>sub1</li>
               <li>sub2</li>
               <li>sub3</li>
          </ul>
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     <li>
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          <ul class='item_4'>
               <li>sub1</li>
               <li>sub2</li>
               <li>sub3</li>
          </ul>
     </li>
</ul>
and extend the class styling to control each menu's vertical position. "top:0;" is what is default and aligns the top of the submenu with the top of its parent <li>. Giving it a negative number would move the submenu up and a positive number would move it down (can be in pixels, ems, etc.). You can also use "bottom:0;" to align the bottom of the submenu with the bottom of its parent <li>. Giving it a negative number would move the submenu down, and a positive number would move it up. So using the above menu/list format you could position each submenu exactly where you want to:
<style>
     ul.MenuBarVertical ul
          margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
          padding: 0;
          list-style-type: none;
          font-size: 100%;
          position: absolute;
          z-index: 1020;
          cursor: default;
          width: 8.2em;
          left: -1000em;
          /* top: 0; <-------comment this out or remove it. we will set the position for each menu*/
     ul.MenuBarVertical ul.item_1
          top: 0;
     ul.MenuBarVertical ul.item_2
          top: -30px;
     ul.MenuBarVertical ul.item_3
          bottom: -2em;
     ul.MenuBarVertical ul.item_4
          bottom: 0;
     </style>
Of course there are other ways to do this, but the lesson to remember is how absolute positioning works. It looks for its nearest relatively positioned element and positions itself from that using top/bottom/left/right. I hope this gives you a workable solution or at least gets you moving in the right direction.
Dan

Vertical Menu Height

What can I do about vertical menu bars that exceed the page
height? Some of my menus contain lots of selections within the
submenus, causing the bars to drop beyone the displayed page.
Unfortunately, some of the page viewers can't navigate these as
well since they have an older style mouse with no wheel. Is there a
way to make the bars automatically create a new sub-menu bar when
the display legth is out of range (like page length=600px, for
example)?

In the SpryMenuBarVertical.css stylesheet, apply a line-height to this style:
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarVertical li
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
     list-style-type: none;
     font-size: 100%;
     position: relative;
     text-align: left;
     cursor: pointer;
     width: 8em;
     line-height: 200%; /* I exaggerated for effect... */
It may be in px, though I showed it in percentage.
Also, don't forget to upload your changed CSS file, when you make these changes
Beth

How do i customize the states in a vertical menu bar?

i see that it is possible to change the states for a horizontal venu bar, but i can't get it to work for the vertical one. please tell me we can edit the states in a vertical menu bar.
valerie

Yes, you've hit a bug in Muse, that will be fixed in the next release.
The bug happens when you have a gradient fill for the default state, but no gradient fill for your other state. The vertical menu has this look by default. You can work around it by removing the gradient in the default state, or adding a gradient for the other states.

Is there a way to create a vertical menu for tablet that stays in place?

I am a novice in web design, and I want to make a vertical menu for a tablet page that stays in place.
It should not scroll, and it has to resize depending on screen size, so it looks the same across different tablet sizes.
Is this possible in Muse? After reading some posts I am getting the feeling this is not possible at all, is that really true?
If it can't be done in Muse, can I do it another way? In Dreamweaver for instance?
The reason I want this is that in my opinion horizontal menu's for tablets are ergonomically bad design, and just plain annoying. You always have to use two hands, lift one hand and then you probably block the view of the screen.
Vertical menu's for tablets just make more sense since they can be made so that you could place them on the side of the screen so it would be possible to navigate with the hand that is holding that side of the tablet.
I hope someone can help me.

Yes, I am using the widget.
It seems it is not possible to make the menu stick in tablet design (the pin options are greyed out). Nor is it possible to make the menu scale with screen sizes.
A possible solution would be the ability to make it stretch to 100% screen size, like you can with horizontal objects.
I have noticed though, that, for some reason, in web design it is discouraged or very hard to make things stretch 100% vertically. It seems to cause problems, and I don't understand why.
Since I have started in web design, I have seen many posts of people having design problems, where stretching 100% vertically would be the obvious solution.

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