Vertical Spry sub menu bar gets misplaced in IE

Hi,
I'm using Vertical spry menu bar 1.4 and it works fine in
Firefox, but the submenu appears on a different place in Internet
Explorer, you can check it at
http://www.holystichaven.com/Html/main.html,
i tried changing the positions using the margins provided on the
help, but it still won't work.
Thanx for any help.
Wayne

Hello,
Here are the steps you should do to make the menu work as
expected:
1. Remove all the <div align="center"> from the HTML
source because this will trigger a bug in IE and will apply to all
<a> tags when they are declared as block elements and will
modify their position.
2. Go into your CSS and in the first class ul.MenuBarVertical
change the width:auto; with width: 11em;
3. Into the CSS change into the "ul.MenuBarVertical ul" the
margin property:
margin: 0% 0 0 95%;
to
margin: 0% 0 0 11em;
4. In the "ul.MenuBarVertical a" please add the following
line:
text-align: center;
5. Go to the following URL:
http://www.cristic.ro/samples/SpryMenuBar.js
and our latest version for the Spry Menu Bar that fix an issue on
IE.
Regards,
Cristian MARIN

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      var items = this.element.getElementsByTagName('li');
      for(var i=0; i<items.length; i++)
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      if (this.enableKeyboardNavigation)
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       this.addEventListener(document, 'keydown', function(e){self.keyDown(e); }, false);
      if(Spry.is.ie)
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       for(var i=0; i<linkitems.length; i++)
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    Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_DOWN = 40;
    Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_LEFT = 37;
    Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_RIGHT = 39;
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    layer.style.top = menu.offsetTop + 'px';
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      this.removeClassName(link, this.subHoverClass);
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      return;
    if (!this.lastOpen)
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      return;
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      case this.upKeyCode:
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       break;
      case this.downKeyCode:
       found = this.getElementForKey(opts, 'y', -1);
       break;
      case this.leftKeyCode:
       found = this.getElementForKey(opts, 'x', 1);
       break;
      case this.rightKeyCode:
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       break;
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      case 0: return;
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    if (str.indexOf('-') == -1){
      return str;
    var oStringList = str.split('-');
    var isFirstEntry = true;
    var camelizedString = '';
    for(var i=0; i < oStringList.length; i++)
      if(oStringList[i].length>0)
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        isFirstEntry = false;
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        var s = oStringList[i];
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    try
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      return;
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            course and can trust the accuracy of the training
            based on the extensive experience of the instructors. Thank you!
            Very informative, very thorough.&quot;
              - David, Australia<br />
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          <div id="moreTestimonials">&raquo;&raquo;&raquo; click here for more testimonials &laquo;&laquo;&laquo;</div>
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                <li><a href="#outline.html" title="Outline of our Training Course">General Information &amp; Outline</a></li>
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                <li><a href="#drawings.html" title="Dry dock course drawings">Course Drawings</a></li>
                <li><a href="#testimonials.html" title="Read what our clients have to say">Testimonials</a></li>
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    Here is the code for the page that DOESN'T work:
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          <h2><span class="bolder1">Training Course Schedule</span><span class="bolder1"></span></h2>
          <p><br />
          Class sizes are limited so please register early. Early registration and payment provides the best value.<br />
      <br />
          </p>
    <p class="underline"><strong>4-7 October 2010  •   Honolulu, HI, USA </strong></p>
          <div id="schedulephoto"><img src="../images/conference-rm_train_s.jpg" width="250" height="123" alt="image" /></div>
          <p>The training will be held in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, USA. <br />
            <a href="Registration_Hawaii.html">Registration form</a><br />
            <br />
          </p>
          <p class="underline"><strong>15-18 November 2010   •   Virginia Beach VA, USA</strong></p>
          <p>The training will be held in Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA. <br />
            <a href="Registration_Virginia.html">Registration form</a><br />
            <br />
          </p>
          <p class="underline"><strong>11-14 May 2011  •   London, United Kingdom</strong></p>
            The training is held in conjunction with the Royal Institution of Naval Architects (RINA). Registration and payment will be made directly to RINA. <br />
            Visit RINA's <a href="http://www.RINA.org.uk" target="_blank">website</a> and go to &quot;Events&quot; or call +44 (0) 20 7201 2401.<br />
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          <p><strong>Your Location</strong></p>
          <p>Training tailored to your organization's needs, including training at your facilities, <br />
            is also available.    </p>
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        <div id="nav3"><!-- #BeginLibraryItem "/Library/nav.lbi" -->
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          <li><a href="#index.html" title="DM Consulting home page">HOME</a></li>
          <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">TRAINING</a>
            <ul>
              <li><a href="#outline.html" title="Outline of our Training Course">General Information &amp; Outline</a></li>
              <li><a href="#train_sched.html" title="Locations &amp; dates of our Training Courses">Training Course Schedule</a></li>
              <li><a href="#drawings.html" title="Dry dock course drawings">Course Drawings</a></li>
              <li><a href="#testimonials.html" title="Read what our clients have to say">Testimonials</a></li>
            </ul>
          </li>
          <li><a href="#conference.html" title="Dry Dock Conference information">CONFERENCE</a></li>
          <li><a href="#software.html" title="Shop our software">DOCKMASTER SOFTWARE</a></li>
          <li><a href="#consulting.html" title="Dry Dock Consulting">CONSULTING</a></li>
          <li><a href="#clients.html" title="List of current and past clients">CLIENTS</a></li>
          <li><a href="#about.html" title="Learn about our company">ABOUT</a></li>
          <li><a href="#contact.html" title="Contact us">CONTACT US</a></li>
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    <script type="text/javascript">
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    I understand about having the script and  link element that connect my page to the dependent files in the SpryAssets folder in the header and the JavaScript function cal at the bottom on each page. I don't know what else to do - HELP!

    Welcome to the Dreamweaver world!
    Well, having your index.html page at the top/root level is important, as that is the default page by which people will enter your site.
    Having other pages in folders is fine...I do it all the time in order to keep departments or categories of information sorted.
    One characteristic of having pages in folders is that the hierarchy of files in folders (perforce) puts them at different depths in the site.
    This is not inherently a bad thing! Just one to remain aware of. When you look at your site files in the Files Panel, you can see a graphical representation of those different levels.
    But the nature of a library item is that it is identical in all its instances, which is what makes it useful...change it in the library, and it changes site-wide. The down-side of that identity is that when your files are at different depths in the hierarchy, their links back to, say, home (or any other same file) will change depending on the depth. You can see this if you make a link on a page, then drag the page (in the Files Panel) to a different depth...say, into a folder when it started at root level, or vice versa. Check the link, and you will see that it automatically adapted to the new path.
    Library items do not do that; they do not change, so some of your links will be 'wrong' when you refer to pages that have different paths than the ones originally set up in the library item... because of the change in hierarchy.
    All this is, of course, reliant on your creation of the site in the first place, as defining the root folder's location on your computer gives Dreamweaver a starting point for handling (juggling?) all the location-information for your site's files.
    Beth

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