Very high latency on my MBP 3,1 (mid 2007) with airport extreme card 0x168C

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If you've got any feedback, please feel free to share it with me.
Here's the bug report:
Hello
I'm experiencing very high latency on my MBP when connected using Wi-Fi in my living room and I believe this is a software bug.
This is the trace of my ping test to my router (5m from me):
macbookpro:~ laurent$ ping 192.168.0.254
PING 192.168.0.254 (192.168.0.254): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1536.229 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=536.642 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3444.466 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2547.260 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2671.552 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1671.272 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=2619.991 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1619.350 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=2362.474 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1362.662 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=363.461 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=1407.557 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=1020.437 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=119.570 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.254 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, +1 duplicates, 7% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 119.570/1663.066/3444.466/937.468 ms
These are the details of my network when alt clicking on the network icon:
ca:69:50:37:c7:b2
Channel: 5
RSSI: -54
Transmit Rate: 54
I'm using Channel 5 where my router is the only device available (checked with iStumbler and KissMac).
I compared these results with another computer sitting at the same place:
This is the trace of my ping test to my router using a PC laptop:
C:\Documents and Settings\Laurent>ping -t 192.168.0.254
Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur 192.168.0.254 avec 32 octets de données :
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=6 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=8 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=1 ms TTL=64
Statistiques Ping pour 192.168.0.254:
Paquets : envoyés = 16, reçus = 16, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),
Durée approximative des boucles en millisecondes :
Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 8ms, Moyenne = 3ms
(PC: Win XP SP3 with Linksys Wi-Fi card)
Obviously, my Mac has very high latency where my PC works as expected.
I tried resetting the PRAM, but i didn't affect my results.
I tried updating Airport with the latest AirPort Client Update (http://support.apple.com/downloads/AirPortClient_Update_for_MacBook_and_MacBookPro), but my hardware wasn't eligible for that update (Mid 2007 MacBookPro).
I believe this isn't a hardware bug because i get acceptable ping results when next to my router or in other rooms of my flat.
Can you help me with that bug ?
Regards,
Laurent
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07
SMC Version (system): 1.16f11
Serial Number (system): W874551DX91
Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-001B63B19195
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
AirPort:
Type: AirPort
Hardware: AirPort
BSD Device Name: en1
IPv4 Addresses: 192.168.0.2
IPv4:
Addresses: 192.168.0.2
Configuration Method: DHCP
Interface Name: en1
NetworkSignature: IPv4.Router=192.168.0.254;IPv4.RouterHardwareAddress=00:07:cb:3e:04:ef
Router: 192.168.0.254
Subnet Masks: 255.255.255.0
DNS:
Server Addresses: 212.27.40.241, 212.27.40.240
DHCP Server Responses:
Domain Name Servers: 212.27.40.241,212.27.40.240
Lease Duration (seconds): 0
DHCP Message Type: 0x05
Routers: 192.168.0.254
Server Identifier: 192.168.0.254
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Proxies:
Exceptions List: *.local, 169.254/16
FTP Passive Mode: Yes
Ethernet:
MAC Address: 00:1e:52:72:05:2c
Media Options:
Media Subtype: Auto Select
AirPort Card Information:
Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x87)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
Wireless Card Firmware Version: 1.4.16.2
Current Wireless Network: kalamar
Wireless Channel: 5

Ok, I must have jinxed myself.
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PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=11.607 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=7280.106 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=9209.019 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=8237.475 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=7262.603 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=4313.763 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=3336.361 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=2339.579 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=1344.110 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=345.132 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=1191.119 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=3969.730 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=3992.111 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=3692.648 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=2927.634 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=2130.216 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=1437.424 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=2385.203 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=1393.622 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=396.783 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=23 ttl=64 time=1.295 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=24 ttl=64 time=115.793 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=3.137 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=26 ttl=64 time=10.240 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=27 ttl=64 time=2.709 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=28 ttl=64 time=9.958 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=29 ttl=64 time=1818.371 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=30 ttl=64 time=1470.613 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=31 ttl=64 time=472.520 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=32 ttl=64 time=2255.417 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=33 ttl=64 time=18198.039 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=34 ttl=64 time=23288.761 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=35 ttl=64 time=25150.840 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=36 ttl=64 time=26813.832 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
63 packets transmitted, 34 packets received, 46% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.295/4906.111/26813.832/7241.136 ms

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2 217.32.142.194 (217.32.142.194) 3216.656 ms 3217.232 ms 3217.648 ms
3 217.32.142.238 (217.32.142.238) 3218.504 ms 3219.896 ms 3220.090 ms
4 212.140.206.210 (212.140.206.210) 3227.908 ms 3227.711 ms 3228.309 ms
5 31.55.165.93 (31.55.165.93) 3230.906 ms 3231.504 ms 3231.703 ms
6 31.55.165.107 (31.55.165.107) 3232.700 ms 2652.743 ms 2653.236 ms
Not too Working Well
traceroute to google.co.uk (173.194.66.94), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.763 ms 0.857 ms 0.641 ms
2 217.32.142.194 (217.32.142.194) 1845.907 ms 1846.030 ms 1846.220 ms
3 217.32.142.238 (217.32.142.238) 1848.416 ms 1849.019 ms 1849.608 ms
Working Fine
traceroute to google.co.uk (173.194.66.94), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.141 ms 0.822 ms 0.975 ms
2 217.32.142.194 (217.32.142.194) 23.948 ms 23.751 ms 24.947 ms
3 217.32.142.238 (217.32.142.238) 26.607 ms 28.005 ms 27.800 ms
4 212.140.206.210 (212.140.206.210) 34.780 ms 35.387 ms 35.985 ms
5 31.55.165.93 (31.55.165.93) 38.175 ms 38.784 ms 39.782 ms
Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps)
1031
Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps)
7763
Default Gateway / IPv4 Address
pppoa0 (DSL) / 31.53.231.224
Connection Time
00:51:42
Primary DNS Server
217.32.171.22
Secondary DNS Server
213.120.234.50
Any advice welcome.

Broadband is working fine as I type this but it usually doesn't last.
Stats from my Billion 7800DXL
> adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Last Retrain
Reason: 8000 Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 1064 Kbps, Downstream rate = 8972 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 1056 Kbps, Downstream rate = 7752 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: ADSL2+
TPS-TC: ATM Mode
Trellis: UN /DN Line
Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
              Down       Up
SNR (dB): 5.3          5.9
Attn(dB): 43.5         22.3
Pwr(dBm): 0.0         12.7

How to reset SMC (MBP Unibody 17 mid 2009) with an external keyboard?

Hi all,
I had a problem on my MBP and left shift key on internal keyboard is not working.
How can I reset the SMC (left side Shift of internal keyboard is needed) with an external keyboard? Or what else can I do to reset it without the Left Shift of integrated keyboard?
Thanks.

Hi Eww,
thanks for suggestion I know but changing keyboard on a Unibody 17 is very expensive as it's all the top assembly part, and before deciding about it (I can live with one shift key not working) I need to try an SMC reset...and it's very strange there's no other way!
I was looking at the possibility of reinstalling the firmware again (overwriting it with same version) but I can't find any SMC frimware update on apple website for my model as it was provided with the latest one anyway.
Any idea?
G

MBP and Dell Laptop connect to Airport Extreme BUT.......

When I go to Macpro tower with it's built in wireless airpot card and try to set up the airport settings and using the WAP personal 2 just like how my MBP is set up with the same password(and yes it does see the network I set up). It says the password is incorrect and wont allow me to connect.....
First I thought maybe weak signal strength but it's literally 18 feet from the APE to the MP....any clues?

Connection came back to both the iMac and the MacBook Pro without any further intervention.
Anyone have ideas on why this would happen to both computers at the same time, but not to other devices?

VERY slow data transfer to my hard drive attached to the Airport Extreme

Hi
Ive got a Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. In order to access large files from both I got a 2TB drive connected to my Airport Extreme and it shows up fine in both Macs under SHARED.
When I copy files from and to that harddrive from my Macbook Pro its impressively fast. Seems as fast as a USB stick.
However when I try to do the same with my Mac Pro its extremely slow. A 1GB file takes about 15 minutes.
Are there any settings that I might have overlooked on the Mac Pro?
Thanks
Jorg

This won't be of any help for you , but I happen to have the exact same problem. My AEBs is linked to a LaCie external HD, my wireless network include a macmini aluminum, a Macbook Air, a MacBook Pro, a MacPro Dual-COre Intel 2.66 GHz. . Everything works fine expect for the MacPro which is painfully slow to get data to and from. The MacPro Airport Card is of the Airport Extreme type (0x14E4, 0x87), like my other macs…
I use WPA2 with a n protocol to connect to the base station.
Still at a loss about this issue, wonder how to solve it…

Why does my 10GB iSCSI setup seem see such high latency and how can I fix it?

I have a iscsi server setup with the following configuration
Dell R510
Perc H700 Raid controller
Windows Server 2012 R2
Intel Ethernet X520 10Gb
12 near line SAS drives
I have tried both Starwind and the built in Server 2012 iscsi software but see similar results. I am currently running the latest version of starwinds free
iscsi server.
I have connected it to a HP 8212 10Gb port which is also connected via 10Gb to our vmware servers. I have a dedicated vlan just for iscsi and have enabled
jumbo frames on the vlan.
I frequently see very high latency on my iscsi storage. So much so that it can timeout or hang vmware. I am not sure why. I can run IOmeter and
get some pretty decent results.
I am trying to determine why I see such high latency 100'ms. It doesn't seem to always happen, but several times throughout the day, vmware is complaining
about the latency of the datastore. I have a 10Gb iscsi connection between the servers. I wouldn't expect the disks to be able to max that out. The highest I could see when running IO meter was around 5Gb. I also don't see much load
at all on the iscsi server when I see the high latency. It seems network related, but I am not sure what settings I could check. The 10Gb connect should be plenty as I said and it is no where near maxing that out.
Any thoughts about any configuration changes I could make to my vmware enviroment, network card settings or any ideas on where I can troubleshoot this. I
am not able to find what is causing it. I reference this document and for changes to my iscsi settings
http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/extras/m/white_papers/20403565.aspx
Thank you for your time.

I have a iscsi server setup with the following configuration
Dell R510
Perc H700 Raid controller
Windows Server 2012 R2
Intel Ethernet X520 10Gb
12 near line SAS drives
I have tried both Starwind and the built in Server 2012 iscsi software but see similar results. I am currently running the latest version of starwinds free
iscsi server.
I have connected it to a HP 8212 10Gb port which is also connected via 10Gb to our vmware servers. I have a dedicated vlan just for iscsi and have enabled
jumbo frames on the vlan.
I frequently see very high latency on my iscsi storage. So much so that it can timeout or hang vmware. I am not sure why. I can run IOmeter and
get some pretty decent results.
I am trying to determine why I see such high latency 100'ms. It doesn't seem to always happen, but several times throughout the day, vmware is complaining
about the latency of the datastore. I have a 10Gb iscsi connection between the servers. I wouldn't expect the disks to be able to max that out. The highest I could see when running IO meter was around 5Gb. I also don't see much load
at all on the iscsi server when I see the high latency. It seems network related, but I am not sure what settings I could check. The 10Gb connect should be plenty as I said and it is no where near maxing that out.
Any thoughts about any configuration changes I could make to my vmware enviroment, network card settings or any ideas on where I can troubleshoot this. I
am not able to find what is causing it. I reference this document and for changes to my iscsi settings
http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/extras/m/white_papers/20403565.aspx
Thank you for your time.
If both StarWind and MSFT target show the same numbers I can guess it's network configuration issue. Anything higher then 30 ms is a nightmare :( Did you properly tune your network stacks? What numbers (x-put and latency) you get for raw TCP numbers (NTtcp
and Iperf are handy to show)?
StarWind VSAN [Virtual SAN] clusters Hyper-V without SAS, Fibre Channel, SMB 3.0 or iSCSI, uses Ethernet to mirror internally mounted SATA disks between hosts.

High Latency

Hi, when trying to connect to my work VPN from my girfriends house the connection is unusable, speaking to the girlfriend she is regulally thrown off her VPN connection whilst working from home. After a few traceroutes I noticed very high latency on the route between the home hub and VPN gateway:
Traceroute:
traceroute to ukc1-twvpn.oraclevpn.com (144.24.19.20), 60 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 BThomehub.home (192.168.1.254) 17.482 ms 17.154 ms 17.062 ms
2 217.32.142.201 (217.32.142.201) 22.871 ms 25.683 ms 25.596 ms
3 217.32.147.174 (217.32.147.174) 25.350 ms 25.930 ms 26.414 ms
4 212.140.206.90 (212.140.206.90) 30.361 ms 31.576 ms 32.324 ms
5 217.41.169.215 (217.41.169.215) 32.262 ms 32.884 ms 33.496 ms
6 217.41.169.109 (217.41.169.109) 34.581 ms 20.622 ms 21.236 ms
7 acc2-xe-2-0-3.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.255.223) 21.177 ms acc2-xe-0-2-1.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.251.213) 321.036 ms acc2-xe-0-3-1.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.251.237) 321.884 ms
8 core1-te0-4-0-2.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.129) 322.600 ms core1-te-0-13-0-12.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.169) 324.078 ms core2-te0-0-0-6.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.159) 325.564 ms
9 peer2-xe1-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.104) 323.088 ms 194.72.31.159 (194.72.31.159) 324.616 ms 326.111 ms
10 t2c3-xe-2-1-2-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net (166.49.211.192) 329.071 ms t2c3-xe-0-1-1-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net (166.49.211.164) 329.642 ms t2c3-xe-1-1-3-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net (166.49.211.182) 327.789 ms
11 166-49-211-254.eu.bt.net (166.49.211.254) 326.511 ms 328.270 ms 67.958 ms
12 ae14-xcr1.lnd.cw.net (195.2.30.113) 68.455 ms 69.132 ms 105.162 ms
13 ae0-xcr2.lnd.cw.net (195.2.25.122) 103.959 ms 102.668 ms 101.729 ms
14 ae10-xcr1.bkl.cw.net (195.2.30.166) 105.256 ms 106.756 ms 105.887 ms
15 oracle-gw-bkl.cw.net (195.59.8.10) 109.243 ms 107.291 ms 108.281 ms
16 144.24.17.2 (144.24.17.2) 110.882 ms 111.875 ms 109.591 ms
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
Who can I get in touch with to help troubleshoot this issue? I have gone through all normal basic troubleshooting steps such as the ubiqutous reboots of all technology. Many thanks.
Chris.

Is that problem consistent? My ping/tracert is fine: also from Infinity connection. I can't check the VPN itself.
I see your route and mine are both pretty similar and indeed both go through 212.140.206.90
You seem to have very high pings even to the HomeHub. Normally that should show up as 1ms or less even with wireless.
Tracing route to ukc1-twvpn.oraclevpn.com [144.24.19.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 172.16.14.14
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms 213.120.158.173
5 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 212.140.206.90
6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.41.169.219
7 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.41.169.109
8 13 ms 30 ms 12 ms acc2-xe-1-3-0.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.251.203]
9 21 ms 23 ms 23 ms core2-te-0-13-0-10.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.251.179]
10 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms peer2-xe3-3-1.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.227]
11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms t2c3-xe-0-1-2-0.uk-lon1.eu.bt.net [166.49.211.166]
12 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 166-49-211-254.eu.bt.net [166.49.211.254]
13 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae14-xcr1.lnd.cw.net [195.2.30.113]
14 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae0-xcr2.lnd.cw.net [195.2.25.122]
15 20 ms 17 ms 18 ms ae10-xcr1.bkl.cw.net [195.2.30.166]
16 24 ms 23 ms 22 ms oracle-gw-bkl.cw.net [195.59.8.10]
17 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 144.24.17.2
18 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ukc1-twvpn.oraclevpn.com [144.24.19.20]

Very high latency on my MBP 3,1 (mid 2007) with airport extreme card 0x168C

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