Very Low 3dMark2001 score w/ MSI GeForce4 MX440SE-T

HELP!!
My System:
AMD Athlon xp 2000+
ASUS A7V333
256 DDR 333MHz Kingston RAM(Latency 2.5)
(MS-8878)MSI Geforce4 MX440SE-T
And With that system I am getting very low scores about 4070 at 3Dmark2001 SE! It seems to me impossible, it is near to my old Geforce 2MX.
I think there is some problem with my configuration, but yet I couldn't find anything.I tried alot of things, checked all drivers they are all up to date.(Via 4in1 drives:latest hyperion thing,NVidia WHQL certf. 40.72. etc..)I enabled fast write, enhanced agp performance control from bios and eveything I know from display settings i.e. Antialiasing disabled, d3d tweaked and still the problem persists.
I need someone who can help me under these hard and strange conditions.. ?(

I have to agree with sqersch, I've run at 60 mhz and got way more than 60 fps, refresh rate doesn't have alot to do with card performance. Sure you get a fps boost when you increase the refresh rate but nothing significant and it certainly doesn't "cap" the frame rate, it can just improve it slightly. Besides about the only thing you would want to increase the refresh rate for is so that it would be easier on the eyes, (less flicker). As for the guy complaining about his benchmark, what exactly do you expect to get with an mx version of a geforce 4? I'm not saying that score isn't wrong, just wondering what score you hope to achieve with an mx card.
Geforce system specs:
Msi Kt3 Ultra 2-R with amd athlon xp 2200+ (overclocked to 1.98)
Msi geforce 4 ti4200 128 mb (overclocked to 300/590)
512 mb ddr @333mhz
Ac97 advance audio (crappy gotta get audigy!!!)
3com 10/100 netcard
Volcano 9 smartfan 2
4X 3.5" case fan
windows xp pro sp1

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jimboy, what BIOS version are you running? After switching to version 1.2 and upping my RAM voltage to 2.8V I get great performance with OCZ.
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Originally posted by The Black Wibble
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i speak spanish, sorry.
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