Very slow Time Machine Initial Backup to Leopard Server on Xserve with RAID

I'm having trouble backing up my iMac to my Xserve running leopard with dual drobos as my time machine drives
So here is the setup:
Server: Xserve (dual quad 2.8 xeons) backing up to Drobo array with 4x1tb drives running (dual drobos on server) fully patched 10.5 server with 16gb/RAM (showing 8gb free)
Network: 1gbs via catalyst switches on essentially unloaded segment (a couple of folks reading emails)
Source Machine: iMac 24" 3.06 Core2Duo with 8gb RAM
Most important fact: nothing has changed on the server (other than usual updates)
Doing an initial backup of the iMac over the network, and getting peak of about 100Kb/sec, and much of the time it seems to have stalled. Given that the machine has like 230GB to backup, this is going to take a real long while. When I query activity monitor on both the client and Xserve, they are both virtually idle with all resources free (lots of free RAM/Disk/CPU). Neither machine is running any apps right now during the test (other than filesharing, but nobody is using as the office is empty today)
Now one thing to note is the staggering number of files (iPhoto library is ~120gb and holds over 500,000 files [faces?]) giving a total of 1.2M files.
As a point of testing, copied a 500mb quicktime movie to same partition, took <5 seconds.

Should I be concerned that the TimeMachineBuddy widget is producing tons of error messages in the system console (and doesn't seem to work)
8/4/09 3:34:01 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:01.438 DashboardClient[381:10b] com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine: ERROR: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma
8/4/09 3:34:01 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:01.439 DashboardClient[381:10b] (com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine) file:///Users/henryhbk/Library/Widgets/Time%20Machine%20Buddy.wdgt/Utilities.js: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma (line: 33)
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.359 DashboardClient[381:10b] com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine: ERROR: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.360 DashboardClient[381:10b] (com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine) file:///Users/henryhbk/Library/Widgets/Time%20Machine%20Buddy.wdgt/Utilities.js: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma (line: 33)
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.620 DashboardClient[381:10b] com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine: ERROR: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.621 DashboardClient[381:10b] (com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine) file:///Users/henryhbk/Library/Widgets/Time%20Machine%20Buddy.wdgt/Utilities.js: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma (line: 33)
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.885 DashboardClient[381:10b] com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine: ERROR: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma
8/4/09 3:34:02 PM [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.dock[233] 2009-08-04 15:34:02.885 DashboardClient[381:10b] (com.bluedog.tmwidget.TimeMachine) file:///Users/henryhbk/Library/Widgets/Time%20Machine%20Buddy.wdgt/Utilities.js: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma: Unrecognized message format: Aug 4 14:31:01 Henry-Feldma (line: 33)

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          [loaded] com.symantec.Sched503-3.plist Support
          [loaded] com.symantec.Sched503-4.plist Support
          [running] com.symantec.sharedsettings.plist Support
          [running] com.symantec.symdaemon.plist Support
          [running] com.symantec.symSchedDaemon.plist Support
          [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist Support
Launch Agents:
          [loaded] com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist Support
          [running] com.lacie.safemanager.daemon.plist Support
          [running] com.micromat.TechToolProAgent.plist Support
          [loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist Support
          [running] com.seagate.SeagateStorageGauge.plist Support
          [failed] com.sogou.SogouServices.plist Support
          [running] com.symantec.uiagent.application.plist Support
          [running] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist Support
          [loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist Support
User Launch Agents:
          [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist Support
          [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist Support
          [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist Support
          [running] com.wondershare.mobilegodaemon.plist Support
User Login Items:
          GeekTool
          SIMBL Agent
          QQ
          Safari
          Calendar
          Google Drive
          Dropbox
          Day One
          Dictionary
          SymSecondaryLaunch
Internet Plug-ins:
          Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.2.1.11 Support
          FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.182 - SDK 10.6 Support
          iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
          Flash Player: Version: 13.0.0.182 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update
          AdobePDFViewer: Version: 9.5.5 Support
          Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
          QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
          OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.3.6 Support
          RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null) Support
          Silverlight: Version: 4.0.51204.0 Support
          JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 55 Check version
Safari Extensions:
          Video Converter: Version: 4.0.0
          AllMyTube: Version: 4.1.0.0
          Open in Internet Explorer: Version: 1.0
Audio Plug-ins:
          BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9
          AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9
          AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9
          iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
iTunes Plug-ins:
          Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9
User Internet Plug-ins:
          QQMail: Version: 1.0.2.0 - SDK 10.7 Support
          txftn: Version: 1.0.0.6 Support
3rd Party Preference Panes:
          Adobe Version Cue CS4 Support
          Flash Player Support
          GeekTool Support
          Growl Support
          Java Support
          MacFUSE Support
          MenuMeters Support
          MySQL Support
          Norton\nQuickMenu Support
          Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X Support
          Pen Tablet Support
          Perian Support
          TechTool Protection Support
Time Machine:
          Skip System Files: NO
          Mobile backups: OFF
          Auto backup: YES
          Volumes being backed up:
                    Macintosh HD: Disk size: 697.84 GB Disk used: 647.49 GB
          Destinations:
                    NewMBP-TimeMachine-1.1 [Local] (Last used)
                    Total size: 1
                    Total number of backups: 11
                    Oldest backup: 2014-03-18 15:09:46 +0000
                    Last backup: 2014-04-29 23:24:28 +0000
                    Size of backup disk: Too small
                              Backup size 1 < (Disk used 647.49 GB X 3)
          Time Machine details may not be accurate.
          All volumes being backed up may not be listed.
Top Processes by CPU:
              47%          SymAVScanDaemon
               7%          Finder
               7%          WindowServer
               2%          mds
               1%          NortonAutoProtect
Top Processes by Memory:
          385 MB          NortonAutoProtect
          262 MB          mds_stores
          180 MB          Safari
          139 MB          WindowServer
          115 MB          Finder
Virtual Memory Information:
          1.15 GB          Free RAM
          2.87 GB          Active RAM
          1.83 GB          Inactive RAM
          1.05 GB          Wired RAM
          1.02 GB          Page-ins
          380 MB          Page-outs
I hope you can see something that can be fixed.

Is slow time machine due to a lack of RAM

When I originally purchased Leopard, I used time machine on an old imac G5 with 2.5 gig ram without a problem. I have now changed my Mac to the latest Imac G5 with dual. I am starting over with TM and it is so slow.
I have checked that I have the correct format on my LaCie external 320 gig firewire hard disc. I am not running Symantec antivirus.
In the last 6 hours I have managed to backup 7.75 gig with 137 gig to go. This cannot be right.
I have only 1 gig of ram and have ordered an extra 2 gigs. Will this make a difference?
The data on my new mac was restored from time machine. I have the bug that prevents me from copying and pasting a new icon on my HD. Could this be related?
Help please

From my experience, there are a couple of things you can check.
First, if you installed any third party memory go to About this Mac and see how much memory your system is recognizing. I had a problem here even though I bought the memory from an authorized Mac reseller and repair facility. We cured it by removing the original factory installed memory and booting with the memory that I installed. It recognized it immediately and then I went back in an reinstalled the factory installed memory and it has been ripping since.
The more and bigger size of files that you are initially backing up the longer it takes. It did take a long time for me to back up about 70 gigs of data.
Also, for some reason, Time Machine doesn't like daisy chained FireWire drives. I have four in my system and the first time I tried running Time Machine, it cranked for hours and then gave me an error. I disconnected my backup drive from the daisy chain and plugged it into its own FireWire port and it worked great after that.
Personally, I like Super Duper as a backup better because it produces a bootable backup and can be scheduled to run whenever you want (I did it once a day). With Time Machine you have to use your install disk in conjunction with Time Machine. However, Super Duper is not yet compatible with Leopard although they seem to be getting closer. It like Time Machine does an initial back and then only changes files when the files change. It keeps only one backup copy of your hard drive not the hourly, weekly, etc that Time Machine.
Many people like Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) which does the same as Super Duper but I am not sure that you can schedule backups or if the backup it produces is totally recopied every time it runs or just updates changed files like Super Duper and Time Machine.
Again, Time Machine is very very slow on the initial backup.

Deleting "BAckups.backupd" folder(Time Machine) to install Snow Leopard

Hi .. first time here. This community service is just fantastic. Useful source of help. Many real experts here. Wonder how many people come here FIRST for resolutions, before reading Apple's own support site. I being one of them .. If you can help with this ..
I read in various posts to delete or thrash the "Backups.backupd" folder so that the installation of SNow Leopard can continue bypassing the error message of volume being used by Time Machine. I did that and installation of Snow Leopard proceeded beautifully. Thanks a lot.
I have not used Time MAchine yet ..but will, as soon as I get Snow Leopard into production.
After which, I read in Apple's resolution to "Move the "Backups.backupd" folder from the Trash to the desktop." - Do I need to do this ?? Or, this folder will be created when I eventually initialise Time Machine.
Thanks & regards.

V.K. wrote:
where did you read that?? you definitely don't need to do this. what you need to
do is empty trash.
I think the reference is to Mac OS X v10.6: Cannot install Mac OS X v10.6 on a volume used by Time Machine for backups. I'm not sure how that applies if the OP has never used Time Machine, but according to this article, if there is an existing "Backups.backupd" folder, the trash should not be emptied unless it contains a backup that is duplicated somewhere else.
BTW, in some recent topic, I mentioned that the error message occurs because of an invisible file & that only removing that would let the Snow Leopard install continue. This article apparently says I'm totally wrong about that, but I can't find the topic with my erroneous info in it to correct it -- the Discussions (& for that matter the Support) search engines seem to be having fits today, at least for me. If someone sees that topic, I would appreciate linking to it here, or at least a post in that topic letting other users know I my info was wrong.
Thanks.

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