VGA Bios states "Engineering Release"

Hi Folks,
I recently installed the K7N2G-LISR MB for a family member. After delivery I noticed the message in the VGA Bios of "Engineering Sample, not for production use" in the POST. Now, before I get my shorts in a twist, is this refering to the MB or can this be resolved by updating the BIOS? I got the board from a local shop with a good history. Any thoughts?
Thanks!

Fill out an online technical support form at:
http://www.msicomputer.com/msiforms/c_problem_desc_form3.asp.
Explain that you have a reference BIOS, and that you need to upgrade to the latest revision. I did this for my 6200 that had the same problem; within one business day, MSI emailed me a new BIOS. For those of you that have the MSI NX6200AX 128, you can download the BIOS they sent me from my website:
[Deleted]
[Edited since you are spaming and we do not know if this file is legit. - Richard]

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Do not try to update your VGA BIOS, it is not like a motherboard. Live Update has been known to render cards useless. Consider yourself lucky, you may have had a brush with death.
Take a look or do a search of this forum and you will see what I mean.

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i've just built a system with a K7N2G-ILSR. The first system message after POST is 'CR17VGA BIOS-Engineering Release-Not for Production Use'
Is this a board for beta testers?
Can I flash the VGA Bios with a newer version?

Fill out an online technical support form at:
http://www.msicomputer.com/msiforms/c_problem_desc_form3.asp.
Explain that you have a reference BIOS, and that you need to upgrade to the latest revision. I did this for my 6200 that had the same problem; within one business day, MSI emailed me a new BIOS.
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I set my T520 to "discrete only" graphics and the video bios now posts before the system bios. But it says "Engineering Release - Not For Production use". This video bios (75.19.53.00.00) sounds more like a pre-production beta than what I'd expect in a business laptop.
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Thanks for highlighting this. Will bring it up to engineering for their assistance.
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Hi,
i just got my MSI NX6200AX-TD128 (602-V011-010) card
B0505000867
and it shows this bootup firmware info:
BIOS 5.44.A2.02.00 engineering release not for production use
Why is MSI selling these cards with a firmware like this?
Why there is no updated firmware for download?
(searched here: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=679&kind=2 )
Where can i download a retail fw?
TIA
TIA

Quote from: fabianzd on 07-August-05, 20:58:50
This is a user to user forum and MSI does not read or participate in these forums.
You need to contact MSI directly to get answers about this BIOS...
I see... thank you.
Quote from: fabianzd on 07-August-05, 20:58:50
But... why overclock a 6200 video card??? I really doubt that you get a better performance in games or 3D app's with this video card.
Quote from: Richard on 07-August-05, 22:20:30
Trying to overclock a 6200 is like trying to Supe up a Yugo. What is the point, there is nothing you could do to it, to make it play today's games.
Take Care,
Richard
here are some articles about overclocking the 6200:
6200 (NV43):
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/peredelki/
A6200 (NV44A):
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/nv-gf6200agp-roundup/
too bad that i found these articles after i spent my money.
next time i'll do some research before buying and not after... :P
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Msi are going to be last, and then if they release new bios for G4Ti cards.
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I don't have any answers to your restart problem since you did not provide any details of this restart problem. I cannot guarantee I would even if you did, but do so anyway.
I never update VGA BIOS's so I can't help you on backing up your current VGA BIOS. Someone else will have to step in for that.
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decalpha,
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http://www.mvktech.net/download.php
this is a listing of many manufacturers vga bios'
if this has been posted before....please excuse me!

Many thanks for your post.

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