[VIA] KT6 Delta hangs when I install SATA disk

I've had a lot of problems with my PC - maybe related to the mobo, maybe not. I have a KT6 Delta LSR - and was running XP SP2 with a SATA disk on it. Not RAID - just standalone. It ran OK for about 4 months, then it crashed hard. For the last two weeks I'm trying to get my system back, but its not looking good. I think the CPU or mobo overheated - it was running about 62C - then I installed a new CPU fan and tried to render a DVD when it locked up and apparently wrecked my disk. I bought a brand new SATA disk and a new IDE disk. I installed XP fresh on the IDE disk. That runs OK. I removed the "old" disk (4 months old) from the system and installed a brand new SATA disk. But when I install the VIA SATA drivers, XP falls apart. By that I mean it can take up to 45 minutes to boot up (with an Athlon 3000+, 1Gb memory) and it acts VERY sluggish when I do finally get in.
I don't know what to do. I'd like to try to recover data from my "old" disk to the new SATA disk, but the SATA drivers make working in XP impossible. I have bought a new motherboard - an ABIT board that supports SATA, but I hate to go to the trouble of replacing the mobo, if the problem is with SATA. Maybe SATA is not ready for general use yet? Is it still being developed and maybe it is generally unstable? As long as I'm, with IDE, everything seems stable. What should I do to get data off my SATA drive? I'm sorry I ever went SATA, that's for sure. Never again.
Should I install XP on the new SATA drive like I did back in May and see if I can get data off the "old" drive - then maybe copy it to a network location somewhere? I have two fairly new 250 Gb. SATA drives that are basically useless. Unbelievable.

I did not change the CPU. Just the CPU's fan. I did not reset the CMOS after doing that. I have a Thermaltake power supply and 1GB of Corsair DDR 4000 - 2x512mb.
In another post, I found a link to a post at Western Digital where WDC claims that the disk I have is the next generation of SATA and may not be compatible with the chipset in the MSI motherboard. They recommend to jumper two pins on the disk to help out. The only thing is that my WDC disk has been running OK since May and is the one that recently crashed. I bought a Seagate SATA disk to try to restore my system to, but whenever I hook up the Seagate, the system takes over an hour to boot up. Without the Seagate it takes a few minutes. I think that maybe the Seagate is also too new for this motherboard.
I don't know how the consumer is supposed to know if a disk is compatible with a motherboard. I bought a SATA disk to use in a SATA equipped motherboard. Apparently newer versions of SATA are not backwards compatible but there is no easy way to know this in advance or to find out if your disk will work.

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Originally posted by Wizardman
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