Video 8, Import via Firewire or TBC to DV Deck

I'm working through a project that involves quite a few Video 8 and Hi8 material.
The Sony deck I have can output this video via Firewire, using a DV preset.
My question is, will that workflow produce the best results?
As opposed to outputting analog video, through a time base corrector to a DV deck and then importing it?
Or for example importing it as uncompressed SD (via capture card)?
Or is there yet another method that would produce better results?
I release that Video 8 and Hi8 is not the highest quality material. But I just wanted to make sure I get the best results I can.

I was going to get a time base corrector, as I've already had issues duping the Video 8 to DV through the analog video connection. I've had video and audio drop out, but it doesn't through the Firewire connection. I'm getting the TBC so I can have a DV backup to the original analog source. I plan on comparing the import over the direct analog to Firewire import to the DV import after TBC conversion. Just to see if there is any difference.
But I still wonder what is the best format to import this old Video 8 material. Is DV the best? I'm assuming that the old consumer Video 8 is a step above VHS at best, so maybe the DV setting is fine.

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New to the video thing. Does it make a difference in quality if you import via firewire cable directly connected to the computer versus daisy chained through another firewire device?
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Hi,
I'm using iMovie 10.0.2, and trying to import from a Sony DCR-TRV320E camcorder over firewire into my late 2010 13" Macbook Pro under Mavericks. Everything is up to date software wise as of today.
This setup worked fine under Lion (I skipped mountain lion), and with the previous version of iMovie. I'd plug it in, go into import, and set it pulling in the contents of the tape - with no issues. It was really slick.
Trying it with my current setup, everything looks like it's working fine, i.e. I connect everything together, start the import, the camcorder starts up, video and audio show on my Macbook fine. When the import finishes though, theres no video file to be found anywhere. I've searched on the hard drive, and withing iMovie. I tried creating another user account on my Macbook and doing it from iMovie in there, and again, import starts, video and audio play, but when import finishes there's no movie file anywhere.
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The fact that searching google and this formum has lead to me finding NO results, I am wondering whether anyone has or is experiencing similar issues..
For some time now, I have been having this issue, which I just realized is not normal. I have a Sony DV Cam Deck which I use to import via Firewire to Premiere CS5.5. Attached to the Sony Deck I also have a small monitor connected to the composite video output.
The color and white balance look fine on the small monitor, however on the import via firewire, there is tinge through it almost like an incorrect white balance.
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Yes I have rendered footage with no correction or effects and watched it back on a Sony TV/Monitor. Colour is out.
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