Video Capture from Elgato

Hi all,
I'm entering into the Video Production world and I'm evaluating to buy a tool to get old VHS tapes into my iMAC.
Reading on newspapers, webs, etc. I found the Video Capture product from Elgato.
Is someone using it ? How it works ? Can I consider it to enter in a professional manner into VHS to DVD conversion ?
I know that there is a similar product (Roxio easy VHS to DVD) but from a US MacWolrd video it seems that Elgato is better ?
Is someone able to comment on that ?
Thanks
Giancarlo

Neither of the products you mentioned is the correct product if you plan to edit the video. The Elgato Video Capture website claims: "Elgato Video Capture transfers video from a VCR and other analog video sources to your Mac in a format that is ready for iTunes®, an iPod® or iPhone™, YouTube™, and iMovie®"
None of those formats are suitable for editing. The same is true of Roxio's Easy VHS to DVD.
If you don't plan to edit the footage, then either will do. But if you do plan to edit "in a professional manner" then you'd need a DV converter like the Canopus ADVC line of products. A DV converter (or qualified DV camcorder or VTR) will convert the analog video/audio signal to a Firewire signal that can be captured on your Mac in a format that is native for most NLEs. The ADVC300 adds a TBC - further enhancing/stabilizing the analog signal.
-DH

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