Video Card Resources with 2 Displays

Hello,
I have two displays, a 30" (2560x1600, connected to a ATI Radeon HD 4870 in Slot1) and a 23" (1920x1200, connected to a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT in Slot4) in MacPro 2,1.
The 30" is the main display (has the menubar and dock) and all the work gets done there.
The 23" display holds my palettes, email, calendar, address book and other apps that don't require much graphics processing (I think).
Photoshop CS5 will not see the 4870's GPU for OpenGL at all if the 7300 is plugged in.
see this discussion to confirm: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2809270
So I'm thinking of removing the 7300 altogether.
My question is, if I connect both displays to the same graphics card (4870) with 512mb vram, are the resources - GPU and memory split in half equally, or are the resources divided according to need, or some other allocation?
ie. is 'mail' getting the same gpu and memory as 'photoshop'?
Thanks for any insight.
--sdm.

Thanks QD. I have now tried it, I think I performance is good. I still would like to know for sure if there are any experts on GPUs out there?
I have a new related question: now that both displays are hooked up to the same card (4870), I wonder if moving my OSX Finder Menubar and Dock to the smaller display (making it the 'main' monitor by OSX's definitions) would allow windows shown on the smaller display get more gpu/videocard resource preference than they should....
Why do that? because I've run a 2 display setup for 6-7 years, with the menu bar and dock on the right hand display, working with Photoshop only on the display in front of me. I want to return to this, but I want Photoshop to get all the priority when it comes to resources of my new GPU/videocard.
Thanks for any advice!
--Sheldon.

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