Video compression times

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro,
I'm a mobile user who also does a lot of video work (mostly compressing into many differenct formats and resolutions for each video.)
I would like to get some feedback from users about DV compression times using softwares like Final Cut Pro, and After Effects going using .h264 and going into formats like wmv and mov mainly.
Any info is appreciated, as this will be my ultimate deciding factor on what to buy.

There are 2 things, in particular, that you're doing 'wrong,' so to speak.
One is lowering the data rate. With h.264 compression, a lower data rate means your system has to work extra hard crunch the information down. Since the iPod/iPhone setting is multi-pass by default, that means more passes (and longer encoding times) for a 1100 kbps encode vs. a 1500 kbps encode.
Second, iPods & iPhones have a limited frame rate spectrum. I've not seen anything less than 23.98fps or more than 30fps work correctly.
As Michael mentioned already, exporting directly to Compressor takes a tremendous amount of time, about 4x to 6x as long as dropping in a QT movie into Compressor. It's sometimes worth it because the compression quality is superior, but you don't seem to have the luxury of time.
In terms of immediate solutions, if you simply need to get some compressed quick, use the default setting but uncheck the multi-pass box.
For a potentially more complete solution, please detail what your sequence settings (frame size, frame rate, etc) are in FCP and what frame size you're attempting to export to (iPhone @ 480px wide? or iPod at @ 640px wide). Or is your issue more about data rate? Do you need the 30 min file to be 25 MB, for example?

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I'm taking a class in Photoshop CS5. Our textbook is Adobe Photoshop CS5 Classroom in A Book and we've reached Lesson 12 Working with 3D Images. At the end of the chapter we made a 3 second Quicktime (H.264 Compression) movie. According to the book, after choosing Quicktime Export in the Render Video diolog box, it should open a Movie Settings diolog box which, after choosing Videe Settings button, opens the Standard Video Compression Settings box. In the lower right of that box there should be a Preview window showing the effect of the compression on a frame of the animation. For me the preview window is blank even though I can compress the file. I've moved the animation's timeline current time indicator to the beginning, middle, and end of the animation but to no effect.
I'm rumming a Macbook 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4 GB of SDRAM. The computer does support OpenGL which appears to be chosen in the 3D section of Photoshop's preferences.
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Don't worry about file size at this point; the determining factor is program length. A single layer 4.7GB DVD will hold about two hours of video. The compression is handled in the DVD authoring application.
From FCE, just export to QuickTime Movie (do not use QT Conversion). If you'll burn the DVD on the same computer, make sure the "self-contained" box is unchecked for a much quicker export.

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Does it really take 13 hours to encode a 1 hour 16 minute video?
Using Compressor 2.0.1 default 120 minute high quality setting. I have been encoding for 2 hours and 25 minutes, the encode is 72% done and it says it will take an additional 10 hours 52 minutes!!!!
That is slower than my dead grandma.
Is there a faster method than compression?
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It obviously depends upon the speed of your computer and the preset you use. On my 800MHz PowerBook I get about a 16 to 1 ratio for a two-pass best quality MPEG-2 preset when I export from FCP to Compressor v2. However, for a one-pass good quality preset I get under 2 to 1 (one hour of video compressed in under two hours) when I submit the job directly to Compressor.
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FYI--Compressing times of a dual 450 vs dual 1.25 vs Quad

Just got my quad and after some hoops to jump thru I have fcp 4.5/compressor 1.2 running fine now.....
Now these times are not 100% accurate....off by a few minutes here and there but this is what i've got from going from two g4's dual 450 and dual 1.25 to a G5 Quad.....
This project is 1 hour and 40 minutes with a fair bit of colour correction, a third of it time remapped, and a third of it with a widescreen matte...
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dual 1.25 - just video --approx. 10 hours
Quad - just video compress---under 1 hour and 30 minutes....
All I have to say is holy crap batman!!
For me getting the quad now certainly makes a lot of financial sense as I will be able to finish projects a lot faster. I have a back log of about a dozen projects. Can now ship off my slowest mac to a friend who can work for me as well.....:)
The Upgrade is coming in the next week or two and I should see a bit of a difference there as well.....
WOW WOW WOW.......
rob
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BlackMagic is offering the Intensity Pro card that they claim is enhancing the quality of video compression for better results than software driven compression, even with Standard DV in addition to HDV, and at a surprisingly cheap cost (less than $300).
http://www.h-digital.com.au/hardware/hardwareview.asp?id=152
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7-8 years ago, we said that analog video was at the low end and DV was at the high end.
Uh, DV was NEVER on the high end. Digibeta and Beta were analog, and were HIGHER end than DV. Just because it was digital doesn't mean it was better. DV is compressed 5:1 and has 4:1:1 color sampling. Beta was 4:2:2 and better than DV...and Digibeta was and still is the high end SD format. DVCPRO 50 a close second. No...DV came in on the low end...like HDV comes in on the low end of the HD spectrum.
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What I mean at the end is to find ways to have higher quality DVDs than when using software such as Compressor. Do you follow me ?
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