Video Conversion - Creative Zen

Hi all, hope you doing great.
I own the new creative zen 8GB...great player...so far no problems.
I want to ask the following...
1. At what bitrate you think a movie would look nice on zen if it is ripped by a dvd ripper (not the video converter provided by creative); Is it ok if it is at 52kbs/sec;
2. Constant bitrate encoding or variable bitrate encoding?
3. To go for a large avi file, or smaller size with not that good quality?
4. What ripper do you suggest? I've tried **ILLEGAL SOFTWARE**...Any suggestions?
The first lets you crop or zoom videos and that's especially helpful if a movie is on letterbox
format. From the other hand **** i think has a better picture quality result but no option for zooming.
So people...
Message Edited by Dale-CL on 0-5-2008 :8 AM

Using the constant bitrate conversion through creative's converter I can get 2 hours of audio/video down to about 300 Mb. That works out to around 50 to 200 Kbit/s. Looks and sounds fine to me. I wouldn't go too much lower though. I've tried other converters as an alternati've to Creative's and gotten about the same quality at the same bitrate and not too much faster conversion speed.

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4Easysoft Creative Zen Video Converter is an all-in-one Video Converter for Creative Zen software with high output quality and powerful video editing functions, which can help all the zen users to make the best video/audio effect.
First of all, let’s make clear what kinds of videos/audios can get the best effect in the zen players.
Video:
MPEG, WMV, and AVI (MPEG-4 SP, DivX, Xvid), while MPEG-1, and MPEG-2 are supported, but must be transcoded with the included software.
Audio:
MP3, AAC, WMA, WAV, and Audible 2, 3, and 4 formats.
Settings:
Video resolution: 320×240; Video Bitrate: 500 kbps; Audio Bitrate: between 96 to 128 kbps.
Then, let me show you how to make a full use of this powerful converter.
Preparation:Download and install 4Easysoft Creative Zen Video Converter
http://www.4easysoft.com/guide/creative-zen-video-converter/main.jpg
Step 1: Run this software and add video/audio files.
Step 2: Select output video format from the profile drop-down list.
Click the “Profile” button to select the output video format from the drop-down list button.
Step 3: Customize output settings.
Click “Settings” button in the output settings area, you are allowed to customize the output parameters, specify output folder and select output format.
Step 4: Start conversion
Click “Start” button on right bottom of the main interface, you can begin the conversion. All the tasks of conversion will be finished at fast speed and high output quality.
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Tips on editing videos:
1: Capture your favorite picture.
Just click the “Snapshot” button to save your favorite image.
2: Merge videos into one file.
Just check the “merge into one file” option if you want to merge the selected contents into one file As default the merged file is named after the first selected file (either a title or a chapter)
3: Select preference
Click the “Preference” button and a dialog pops up, you can select the output destination, the Snapshot foler, the format of the snapshot image. You can also choose to shut down your computer or do nothing after your conversion. You can also select the CPU usage.
4: Trim video
You can get any clip of your video and put it on your zen.
5: Crop video
You can crop your video by selecting your video mode, setting crop values, or drag the frame.
http://www.4easysoft.com/guide/creative-zen-video-converter/tips.jpg
Ok, just enjoy movies and music with your Creative Zen player now!
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MP4 Converter is a powerful MP4 Video Converter which is designed to convert almost any video formats to MPEG-4 standard formats; WMV Converter provides perfect solution to convert common video formats to WMV with the best quality of picture and sound; Apple TV Video Converter is the excellent Apple TV converter software to convert all video files such as AVI, MPEG, WMV, MP4, MOV, RM, ASF, 3GP, VOB, etc, to Apple TV movies.
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Anyone have face similar problems? Would like to know how to resolve the video conversion problems.
I've got the same issues... but remember that the ZenCast videos are also there for Zen Visual:M and Zen Visual:W and all that, not just for the Zen V Plus.
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Brilliant, just got the 6GB Zen for Xmas, went to put all my favorite videos on it and it won't convert ANYTHING.
Anyone know any alternati'ves for converting?
Regret asking for this player now

I, too, ran into the same conversion problem. Most of my video library is in .mpg format. Unfortunately, the Zen V Plus software doesn't support it!!? What really got my feathers ruffled was the fact that my previous Zen player, the Zen: Vision M converted my videos into?.wmv format (used by the?:Vision M) without ANY problem but the same programmers at Creative didn't bother to make the Zen V Plus software compatible with .mpg files. BAD BAD programming!! Sorry for my rant.?Here is my work around to Creative's bad bad programming.
I downloaded a free video conversion program, "Internet Video Converter" from download.com.
Then I converted my videos from .mpg to .avi (uncompressed!!) using the settings: 28x28,? 385kbps
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I've been trying to convert AVIs and MKVs to view on my Creative Zen and keep running into a problem.
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Exactly what settings are required to convert a file to work on a Creative Zen?
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Hi there:
No worries!
Here I would like to offer you my opinions.
First, we should have a basic information of Creative Zen. In terms of its formats supported, it generally supports AVI, WMV, MPG, MPEG-, MPEG-2 and MP4. But there are still some users feeback that it can not perfectly accept AVI. Okay, based on my own experience using video converters, I am sure that Moyea Video Converter got via Google can definitely help solve the problem.
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By the way, Moyea Video Converter is much easier and faster to operate. Moreover, it applies Dolby TrueHD audio technology, which can enhance the output audio effects.
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I have a new creative zen vision:m devise and I'm having real trouble downloading videos purchased from 7digital.co.uk and itunes. I'm able to convert videos that I either took with a digital camera or downloaded for free easily but wmv files will not convert. I get the error message that either the file is protected, not supported or missing codec directshow(r) despite the fact that the website and Creative user guide suggest that both wmv and mpeg4 files are compatible. Please help! I'm running windows XP

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) download and install the excellent freeware application ZD Soft Screen Recorder, available at http://all-streaming-media.com/recor...-recording.htm This is a brilliant resource which will allow you to record video from your computer screen and record the corresponding sound in the same file. It is totally legal as it merely copies an output and does not break any DRM.
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HI ALL,??I purchased a creative zen vision m a few days ago and i have played around with it to my heart's content.i just needed to air a few points i've discovered so far.VIDEO PLAYBACK:I tried transferring a variety of video formats to the player.some formats will transfer without the need to convert,some require conversion and some the creative software woudn't even convert even with directshown filters installed in the pc.listed below are the varoius formats i tried and the results?avii tried varoius avi formats but only divx and xvid encoded files played successfully which i didn't mind since most downloaded internet video is in these formats anyway.divx/xvid with .avi file extension at various resolutions -plays perfectly but to play full screen nati'vely its better the video was encoded at 320x240 or 640x480.anything else will have varying sizes of black bars on the screen but video with 624x352 widescreen?can be set to fill the screen with no noticable change in quality.i've also encoded at bitrates up to 900kb/s and they played fine.640x480 encoded video looks more crisp on the screen than 320x240 video though.some files with gmc played as well.The only problem is the audio has to be in mp3 format i.e xvid/divx with mp3 audio.Since the player doesn't support ac3 audio any video with ac3. or ogg/ogm in it's container woudn't be transferred and it would ask to convert it before transferring. What i don't like about the?transcoding is the only optuion is wmv9 at 320x240 resolution which from my experience?doesn't give you the best visual ?quality playback?.why should i have to convert a 720x480?or 704x576 video to 320x240 when 480x360 or 640x480 will look far much better on the player. MPEG:I TRIED VARIOUS MPEG FILES AND HERE IS WHAT I DISCOVERED:?MPEG:This player loves mpeg files.mpeg encoded at vcd resolution i.e 320x240 ntsc or 352x288 pal with .5mb/s play perfectly.a lot of music videos downloaded through blogs or p2p or through servers like rapidshare in thjat format play well in full screen.but i think 320x240 is better for the player than 352x288.even a non-standard mpeg file with bitrates up to 2mb/s also play well on the player.they are usally a bit better in quality than the standard ones.files found on a video cd with .dat extension i.e AVSEQ.DAT play perfectly.just copy the file from the vcd straight to the player and thats it.MPEG2:Even though creative states that this format is supported,it didnt transfer the mpeg 2 video files i tried to. The only mpeg 2 file that i was able to transfer to it was encoded with mp3 audio.Now i downloaded this file which was a music video off the net and i've not come across a software that encodes mpeg2 with mp3 yet.Most short video clips in mpeg 2 are in svcd format with mp2 audio and video with .m2v extension which is quite common as well.these woudn't ghet transferred to the player insisting on converting.converting a mpeg2 file at 480x576 or 480x480 resolution to 320x240 resolution just isn't really cool when the player can handle those resolutions in other formats.too much quality gets lost in the process and you only get an half decent wmv9 video with a low resolution.Sadly the player will only play wmv9 encoded at 320x240 resolution so it's not anoption for me.i much rathetr use third party software video encoder like the tmpgenc xpress or mpeg4 directmaker with the latter being good for converting dvd video files to avi with the subtitles embedded in the video.
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HI ALL,??I purchased a creative zen vision m a few days ago and i have played around with it to my heart's content.i just needed to air a few points i've discovered so far.VIDEO PLAYBACK:I tried transferring a variety of video formats to the player.some formats will transfer without the need to convert,some require conversion and some the creative software woudn't even convert even with directshown filters installed in the pc.listed below are the varoius formats i tried and the results?avii tried varoius avi formats but only divx and xvid encoded files played successfully which i didn't mind since most downloaded internet video is in these formats anyway.divx/xvid with .avi file extension at various resolutions -plays perfectly but to play full screen nati'vely its better the video was encoded at 320x240 or 640x480.anything else will have varying sizes of black bars on the screen but video with 624x352 widescreen?can be set to fill the screen with no noticable change in quality.i've also encoded at bitrates up to 900kb/s and they played fine.640x480 encoded video looks more crisp on the screen than 320x240 video though.some files with gmc played as well.The only problem is the audio has to be in mp3 format i.e xvid/divx with mp3 audio.Since the player doesn't support ac3 audio any video with ac3. or ogg/ogm in it's container woudn't be transferred and it would ask to convert it before transferring. What i don't like about the?transcoding is the only optuion is wmv9 at 320x240 resolution which from my experience?doesn't give you the best visual ?quality playback?.why should i have to convert a 720x480?or 704x576 video to 320x240 when 480x360 or 640x480 will look far much better on the player. MPEG:I TRIED VARIOUS MPEG FILES AND HERE IS WHAT I DISCOVERED:?MPEG:This player loves mpeg files.mpeg encoded at vcd resolution i.e 320x240 ntsc or 352x288 pal with .5mb/s play perfectly.a lot of music videos downloaded through blogs or p2p or through servers like rapidshare in thjat format play well in full screen.but i think 320x240 is better for the player than 352x288.even a non-standard mpeg file with bitrates up to 2mb/s also play well on the player.they are usally a bit better in quality than the standard ones.files found on a video cd with .dat extension i.e AVSEQ.DAT play perfectly.just copy the file from the vcd straight to the player and thats it.MPEG2:Even though creative states that this format is supported,it didnt transfer the mpeg 2 video files i tried to. The only mpeg 2 file that i was able to transfer to it was encoded with mp3 audio.Now i downloaded this file which was a music video off the net and i've not come across a software that encodes mpeg2 with mp3 yet.Most short video clips in mpeg 2 are in svcd format with mp2 audio and video with .m2v extension which is quite common as well.these woudn't ghet transferred to the player insisting on converting.converting a mpeg2 file at 480x576 or 480x480 resolution to 320x240 resolution just isn't really cool when the player can handle those resolutions in other formats.too much quality gets lost in the process and you only get an half decent wmv9 video with a low resolution.Sadly the player will only play wmv9 encoded at 320x240 resolution so it's not anoption for me.i much rathetr use third party software video encoder like the tmpgenc xpress or mpeg4 directmaker with the latter being good for converting dvd video files to avi with the subtitles embedded in the video.
The video playback quality is good and is better than the ipod playback quality.i will say only h264 encoded video on the ipod at high quality and high resolution is comparable.the inability to create video playlists and not being able to playback videos in sequence is one let down of the vision m.i have as much as 20 encoded music videos in the player and it would have been nice to just have the videos playback in any sequence you want them instead of going back to the the selection screen after each one. I rest my case here for now.creative please look into these issues and you will be doing much more justice to this brilliant product. ??

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