[Video review & test]MSI GE72 2QE Apache

This is a video review (there's also an article) done by a Turkey media, Technopat.
......ah.....I dont understand turkish, either.... but there are images, test results (13:56) and you can see the interior mechanic designs (06:12) ...so check it out!
The way they speak is quite interesting, too. haha
Here's the video
Here's the article
http://www.technopat.net/2015/04/15/msi-ge72-2qe-apache-incelemesi/

Quote from: queenawiki on 23-April-15, 09:50:46
It's really funny, there should have black tea with Baklava
haha indeed.

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MSI GE62 2QE Apache won another award from notebookinfo.de (Germany)

The media from Germany, notebookinfo.de, gave the MSI GE62 2QE Apache a GOOD award to praise its balanced design on mobility and performance.
The original article is here http://www.notebookinfo.de/tests/notebooks/msi-ge62-2qewi78h11-apache-haeuptling-unter-den-15-zoll-gaming-notebooks/683/
Quotes "The MSI GE62-2QEWi78H11 is a balance between mobility and performance. There are gaming notebooks with more powerful graphic cards, however, you have to sacrifice the SSD configuration and live with more than 2.4kg weight or lose money on the price. Our GE62 tester comes with a good display, presents the majority of the current games in Full HD with ultra details and are smooth and getting high scores thanks to the fast cultivating/development speed in SSD. One of the strengths of the MSI includes comfortable SteelSeries keyboard with large adjustable lighting. Our overall conclusion is positive, as a gaming notebook, the GE62 has given us a lot of fun."
PROS:
Solid overall performance
Good Full HD display with IPS technology
Comfortable SteelSeries keyboard
Lightness
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It's impressive to know this great improvement, cooling system is very important no matter you're hardcore or general user.
MSI really work hard to offer good solution

MSi GE60 2QE Apache Pro - Simple Questions

Hi,
I just purchased my laptop yesterday, and overall I'm quite happy with it! I do have a couple of questions:
1) My idle temperature of my GPU is around 50 degrees, which is a little warmer than my old laptop. Is also true for you other MSi notebook owners?
2) After installing some software and games, I am somewhat unhappy at the read/write speeds of the given 1TB HDD. I was thinking of installing a SSD to speed everything up. After taking a look at the specifications online, I see that there is also an mSATA socket for a SSD.
a) The specifications indicate that its up to 128GB. Is this what MSi could potential provide default? Can I install a larger mSATA SSD (e.g. 256GB), or am I limited to at most 128GB?
b) Can I have both the mSATA SSD and the 1TB HDD inside the notebook?
c) If (b) is true, can I clone the data (OS,apps,etc) from the HDD to the SSD, and boot the computer from the mSATA SSD?
I have only take a quick search, but I saw threads how some users were having issues with the mSATA with their own respective notebook. Is there anything I should know or is there a guide in order to properly add an additional SSD and set it as a boot?
Thanks for all your help

1) Your temperature seems normal for me. I have a GE60 2QE sample here and it also got 90~93 degree while running FurMark, just a maximum.
2)
a) I think 256GB is not a big deal, but if you want to make sure, find the post on Internet to see if any one had installed it. I don't think there's any limitation to install SSD more than 128GB.
b) Yes, your model has at least 1 mSATA port for SSD.
c) Yes, run the BurnRecovery (the icon on Desktop) to build a recovery image (from hidden partition) and recover it to your newly purchased SSD.
Remember to buy SSDs for SATA interface, not PCI-E interface.

GE72 2QE Apache Fan Speed

I realized that only left side of my laptop's fan is working at full potential, whereas the right side of my laptop's fan is very quiet and silent, shouldn't it be dual fan working at the same time with same performance With cooler booster the fan should be quiet right ? But I found it quite noisy when the machine heats up and the fan starts to blow real strong, and somehow the machine will heat up and the fan speed starts to go up even when I leave my laptop there doing nothing , which is kinda annoying and makes me doubt the technology of MSI. Anyone faces the same issues here ? Or maybe I didn't configure the optimum system for the fan

Hi,
I think that's because one FAN is for CPU, the other is for GPU. Nvidia GPU is not always ON, most of the time is handled by INTEL graphic, and of course Nvida GPU FAN wouldn't start.
As for the FAN would randomly starts, I think that's because some applications still run in the background, especially the Windows auto update would take high CPU usage rate when it is running.

MOVED: MSI GE72 2QE - Fn and WinKey are swapped after EC upgrade

This topic has been moved to GAMING Notebooks.
Moving topic to proper area
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=256181.0

MSI people will guide you further about it.
From your current old bios version probably need an alternative way for flashing [not from bios setup]
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because "rom image version is invalid". I can click "do it anyway", but it's risky.
leave it as is for now.
don't proceed further since you received such error and wait for further advice.
P.S:
Moving topic to proper section
[your topic has been posted in the wrong area]

MSI GE72 2QE - Fn and WinKey are swapped after EC upgrade

Hello. I installed newest EC from MSI site and now my Fn works as WinKey, and WinKey works as Fn. How to change that? Why official (not modded) EC has that bug?
BIOS: E1791IMS.105
EC: 1791EMS1.505
Please help me.

MSI people will guide you further about it.
From your current old bios version probably need an alternative way for flashing [not from bios setup]
Quote
because "rom image version is invalid". I can click "do it anyway", but it's risky.
leave it as is for now.
don't proceed further since you received such error and wait for further advice.
P.S:
Moving topic to proper section
[your topic has been posted in the wrong area]

MSI GE62 2QD Apache reviewed by Trusted Reviews

Trusted Reviews just finished MSI GE62 Apache review.
They give GE62 Apache high score.
“The MSI GE62 2QD Apache does enough to be well worth considering as a slimmer and lighter alternative to your more typical bulky 15in gaming laptop. Plus, for its price of just over £1000 it offers competitive performance.”-- Edward Chester
more information: http://www.trustedreviews.com/msi-ge62-apache-review

proud of you MSI!!
be a msi fan and user im so happy to hear about this news!

MSI GT72 2QE wins Editor's Choice Award (PC Comparatif, France)

PC Comparatif, a media from France where lies the capital of fashion and lives users who are picky and have high quality standards, after comparing the G751 with MSI GT72, gave MSI GT72 2QE the Editor's Choice with a full score rating.
Quate in English (translated)
"Throughout the whole reviewing process, we had been asking ourselves whether we could find enough reasons, after our thorough examinations, to give this model a maximum score. The suspense lasted until the very end. We finally confirmed that it was indeed the latest model we had tested recently that had such a privilege to win this compliment. If the G751 makes us exciting (especially its silence and the aggressive price), GT72 possesses all those features and there is no denying that GT72 surpasses the G751, not necessarily in terms of power since both have equal components, but in terms of features/functionalities. MSI did not fail to make this model an ideal alternative for the desktop gaming environment...All those elements have already made GT72 a great choice. But in the end, the decisive variable is the product upgradability: MSI GT72 supports completely change of the GPU, the core component for gaming machine, so that you can keep your configurations the most update ones. Given the investment one has to make in a portable gaming machine, this option shouldn't be just a dream. "
Quate in original language (in French)
"Durant tout le temps de ce comparatif, nous nous sommes demande si un produit allait finalement trouver suffisamment grace a nos yeux pour que nous lui accordions la note ultime. Le suspense aura dure jusqu'au bout, puisqu'il s'est avere que c'est le dernier modele qui est passe entre nos mains qui a eu ce privilege.
Et si le G751 reste notre petit coup de coeur, eu egard a toutes ses qualites (son silence, notamment) et au tarif tres agressif qu'il arbore, on ne peut nier que le GT72 le surpasse, pas necessairement en termes de puissance, puisqu'a composants egaux, tous les modeles se valent, mais plutot sur le plan des fonctionnalites, MSI n'ayant veritablement rien omis pour faire de son poulain une alternative ideale a un environnement destop gaming...Autant d'elements qui font deha du GT72 une reference. Mais finalement, l'argument decisif aura ete l'evolutivite du produit : MSI supporte, en effet, pleinement sur les GT72 le changement du GPU, composant central s'agissant d'une machine gaming, en commercialisant des kits de mise a jour pour ce dernier. Compte tenu de l'investissement que represente un portable gaming, cette possibilite devrait en faire rever plus d'un"

Quote from: feiwang on 16-April-15, 15:09:37
Quate in English (translated)
"Throughout the whole reviewing process, we had been asking ourselves whether we could find enough reasons, after our thorough examinations, to give this model a maximum score. The suspense lasted until the very end. We finally confirmed that it was indeed the latest model we had tested recently that had such a privilege to win this compliment. If the G751 makes us exciting (especially its silence and the aggressive price), GT72 possesses all those features and there is no denying that GT72 surpasses the G751, not necessarily in terms of power since both have equal components, but in terms of features/functionalities. MSI did not fail to make this model an ideal alternative for the desktop gaming environment...All those elements have already made GT72 a great choice. But in the end, the decisive variable is the product upgradability: MSI GT72 supports completely change of the GPU, the core component for gaming machine, so that you can keep your configurations the most update ones. Given the investment one has to make in a portable gaming machine, this option shouldn't be just a dream. "
I found one video teaching users how to do the GPU upgrade on their own. Enjoy!

Say Goodbye to my old desktop! Got my new high mobility and performance MSI GE70 2PC Apache!

Time to get rid of my old PC, which is barely can run latest games. So, after I made some researches online, I decided to buy MSI GE60 2PC Apache. It perfectly matches my budget.
The box inside comes with black design. The notebook is protected by a black sleeve.
The packing includes a power adapter, MSI branded gaming mouse, a battery, CD, and manuals. I especially like the adaptor design in slim and compact size.
The metal brush front cover looks gorgeous. I like the red dragon badge with backlight enabled. This is one of my favorites in this notebook. I believe it will make my new notebook stand out from the other Apxle notebooks when I use it in my campus. “The fruit” is not the only shining star anymore. 
There is a red line on the side~~
Here comes my new notebook. Btw, the packing also comes with a MSI bag.
The labels says it features with Matrix Display (extend to 3 external monitors), Killer lan (network for gaming applications), Steelseries keyboard, and Audio Boost.
The touch pad is in one piece. Again, metal brush!!
Intel i7 and NVIDIA GTX 850M inside of my new baby. 
Audio system is powered by DYNAUDIO. As I checked online, this is a Danish brand and seems to be very famous. 
Steelseries keyboard~ I think I don’t need to mention what Steelseries is. All gamers should know it.
I found one thing very special that the Windows key is moved to the right. According to MSI website, it is for games not to mis-touch the Windows key in gameplay. Very ergonomic design for gamers.
It has an individual numerical key area. Good for my accounting courses.
He he he… I used my Cannon digital camera for below full color backlight keyboard picture! I tried several shots. This one is the best one to show. Anyway, the point here is the color configurations can be customized!!
720P webcam!
On the left, you can find one HDMI, two USB3.0, golden audio jack with Audio Boost feature, and one combo memory card slot.
On the right, you can find one RJ-45 with Killer lan feature, one VGA port, two USB2.0, and BD Combo drive.
The panel can be opened up to roughly 135 degree. I think it is good enough. I am not going to use it as a tablet.
Sound by DYNAUDIO with 2.1 surround audio channel!
The close-up of the shining dragon logo on the front cover.
I find a secret feature.
When the notebook is running by Intel integrated graphics, the power indicator shows blue. However, when it is running by NVIDIA graphics, the indicator shows red.
Very good feature for me to know if the NV graphics is on when I play games.
Signal Indicators show wireless, Bluetooth, hard disk, and power status.
Okay, now it is the time to start the live demo.
Oops…my friend is calling me….need to go out with my friend now. After I finish the basic settings, I will find time to make real gameplay demo and share with you later.

Back again for my part 2 sharing.
Here is my testing result of 3DMARK on my MSI GE60 2PC Apache.
X7654
Boot up time - SSD
Sleeping dog - FPS
Need for Speed – FPS average 60 FPS. (this game only supports max 60FPS)
All settings are set to max
Conclusion:
The metal brush design on front and keyboard sides looks decent. I love its 17” FHD display which is good for playing games, watching videos, typing my reports in a comfortable way. After I got this, it is difficult for me to go back to smaller display.
I expected that online streaming could cost a lot of system resource. However, its Gamecaster Xplit online streaming feature surprised me! No lag and very easy to use! Its quick boot-up time with SSD and GTX 850M gave me a whole new PC experience.
The Haswell i7-4700HQ and NVIDIA GTX 850M are sufficient enough for games and online streaming. Not to mention it also carries Steelseries keyboard which is a Plus when I play games. I am glad that I decided to buy this GE70 2PC Apache to replace my old desktop because it can satisfy all my needs for gaming, multimedia, and document editing.
If you have the same demand as me and also looking for a notebook, it is worthy to give it a shot on MSI GE70 2PC Apache!!

Video Reviews for Corporate Clients

I'm a 3D animator and I need to be able to post QuickTime video reviews that corporate clients can view reliably. The reason I mention that they are corporate clients is because they often times don't have the ability to install software, including upgrades, which means I have to assume that they aren't using the latest version of QuickTime.
I see embedded videos all the time on apple.com/trailers that look great and stream smoothly. I believe most of those videos are using the h264 codec, but I think I'm better off not using h264 since you need QT7 to decode it. Let's assume my clients are using QT6 and cannot upgrade due to IT department restrictions on their end.
That being the case, I'm probably better off using something like MPEG-4 Video as my compressor. The point being I want to use something that will give me the most bang for my bandwidth buck, quality-wise, while at the same time sticking with something legacy that older versions of QT can view.
My videos in Premiere are almost always D1 NTSC Widescreen 720x486, pixel aspect ratio (PAR) 1.2, and when I export them as an MOV, I export as 640x360 PAR 1.0 so I can keep it in a widescreen format and avoid PAR-related distortion. I save them out as MOV with PNG compression at 100% quality, so I can quickly convert them to anything the client needs via QT Pro, without having to re-render the Premiere project multiple times. It's a real time saver. Up till now, I've been putting FLV videos on the web, but I'd like to start using embedded QuickTime videos instead, because you get finer control out of the scrub bar in the QT player than you do with a Flash video.
So my question is this. What are the magic settings (don't laugh) I should use when I'm exporting an MOV that I intend on embedding into a web page? I've already read Apple's tutorial on this, found here:
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/embed.html
...but that really just glosses over the topic, without giving you any recommended settings. I fully realize that the settings you use are extremely dependent on each individuals needs, due to video size, the type of content in the video, etc. However, we know the size I'm working with (640x360) and we know I'm showing complex animations with gradations of tone and hue.
Currently I'm setting my compressor as MPEG-4 Video, and I'm choosing "Hinted Streaming" for my streaming preset. I'm using all of the Hinted Streaming default settings.
Thanks,
Dustin

Last part answered first. No need for "hint" tracks unless your files are served via streaming server software. Just use "Fast Start". File size is smaller (no hint tracks) so you'll get a faster download.
Compression is an art form and there is no "magic" setting. You are correct in choosing MPEG-4 Video codec for backward compatibility.
Export is about two goals when working with Web based files. Quality is subjective and your viewers want "fast" and care less about quality than you think.
The best method is multiple exports. Use lower data rates and work your way up. Start with a ten second test export at various data rate keeping all of the other settings the same. You can compare these files side by side in QuickTime Pro by using the "Play all Movies" (View menu).
Since all of your files are going to bit a bit different what works for one may need "tweaking" in another export.

Notebook MSI GS70 2QE Speaker balance problem

I bought a MSI GS70 2QE Stelth Pro Notebook with the 970M video, I would like to know if somebody has the same sound problem with the sound of the build-in speakers.
My problem is that the sound is not properly balanced centrally, it leans to the right side of the computer. And also for example if you adjust the balance slider all the way to the left speaker the sound is still projected to the right side of the monitor/computer and when you move it to the right side the sound is projected correctly to the right.
Thank you

I think that's because the woofer is close to the right side, actually the left and right speaker sound is even, but when playing particular audio frequency, the extra woofer effect works and would make you misunderstand the right sound is bigger.

Videos from my MSI GT70

Hello guys.
I made some Youtube videos using my MSI GT70 Dominator GTX 870M.
The videos are for view games i have installed and i am just demonstrating the settings and the Frame Per Second.
I use it's integrated nVidia Shadow Play which is awesome btw.
Check it out please.
I play the new Watch_Dogs, Metal Gear Rising, Battlefield4, Assassin's Creed Freedom Cry and i am uploading Batman Arkham Origins soon.
I dont have many games. but if you want me to test a game. i'm willing to do so. if it's actually worth trying.
My channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/the9prince/videos
or Youtube search Prince Alfa .. first channel hit.
Thank you.
PS: I'm not trying to get hits on the videos or anything.
.

Compatible videos in iPhoto should show up under the item "iPhoto Videos" near the top of the list in the Events Library. Click on this item to reveal all the clip thumbnails in the Events viewer. Drag clips in the normal way to a project. Note that videos in iPhoto are not accessible in the same manner as photos, which you drag from the Photo panel in iMovie.
As your Canon G11 shoots in H.264 format (in a .mov container), the clips should import directly to iMovie without the need to import first to iPhoto. I'm assuming you are using iMovie '11 (or possibly iMovie '09).
John

Warranty Void MSI GE60 2PE APACHE PRO

Hello guys.I have a question about warranty.I just bought a notebook MSI GE60 2PE APACHE PRO and i figure this notebook HDD is so slow just 5200 rpm.I want to ask if i can install 1-2 SSD without to void thw warranty because the warranty sticker is on a screw.The warranty will be voided if i will take off that sticker?
Tyvm

- Contact your seller about the warranty.
- Contact your local MSI call center to know about the warranty:
http://www.msi.com/page/service-location/
Not every seller can allow you to remove the bottom cover.

FPS / Stuttering Issues (Overheat , Speedstep Issues ? ) MSI GE60 2PE APACHE PRO

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Good evening Fellow Gamers and Adepts.
I come to you tonight with a serious doubt , which has rattled me for a while , and after some intense troubleshooting i have came up blank.
Here's the deal , as stated , i have a MSI GE60 2PE apache Pro
Now , playing cs go has been the bane of my existence, i am aware there are heating issues with this laptop , but those have been fixed by a Thermal repaste, a cooling pad and the backplate removed.
Now i have no more throttling of CPU , and GPU appears to handle fine aswell; the thing is i keep having MASSIVE lag spikes in CS:GO , and apparently they are being cause by CPU issues.
Image for clarification .
(Standart situation , notice the relative low fps for a old game)
imgur.com/cJ2Ly80
After a few seconds the following occurs
imgur.com/cJ2Ly80,27y1P5C,aq30R4r#1
Notice the fps drop and the CPU frequency percent alert in game
another shot of this in console so you can see the several occurrences
imgur.com/cJ2Ly80,27y1P5C,aq30R4r#2
now keep in mind that these are the lowest game settings, in Fullscreen windowed mode , if i even CONSIDER putting it on standart fullscreen i get unplayable jitterness and fps that range from 10 to 80 , all in a second.
Now , as i have stated i have fooled around and disabled speedstep in the bios , meaning that the cpu is always at 100%, seeing i have removed the backplate , throttling is not an issue as IXT (Intel extreme tuning) can attest.
note aswell the "active core count" spikes to 4/3 in the exact moments of the stutters, meaning that both problems should , in theory , be connected .
Image for reference:
gyazo.com/e1257716681828d38213bcc0e5fa71bc
Details of IXT
gyazo.com/1f03a344b9ac2642b1a885ee0a8ea078
can ANYONE give me an ideia of whats going on ? i rather enjoy playing with games with friends , but this is driving me up the wall..
Lastest NVIDIA / Laptop drivers installed ; Bios Updated and EC firmware aswell.
Thank you for your time guys x)

MSI GE60 2PF (Apache Pro)-609UK

Hi All
I'm new to forum so hello!
I'm looking to buy my son a mid-range gaming laptop, he doesn't need anything crazy fast and have come across the MSI GE60 2PF Apache Pro.
Only thing is, when I do a search for the laptop itself in a search engine it doesn't bring that information up about it. The specs according to the website are as follows:
Intel® Core™ i7-4810MQ Quad Core Processor
15.6" Full HD Screen
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit
16GB DDR3 RAM
128GB SSD + 1000GB 7200 RPM HDD
DVD Rewriter
Dedicated GTX 860M 2GB Graphics
USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth
2 Year MSI Warranty
Does anybody know any more about this laptop?
Thanks

Yeah, that's the one. Was looking for more "hands on" experience though.
The real issue I have is that this laptop is about £200 cheaper than the GE60 2PE laptop. I can't see any differences with the two other than the PF has the 4810 and the PE has the 4710 processor. Just seems a tad weird that the PF is a lot cheaper... Just wondering if I'm missing something glaringly obvious?

[Video review & test]MSI GE72 2QE Apache

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