Video Storage / Mirroring Question & Advice

Good Day
I am assembling about 5 years worth of video from tape, card and disk and putting it all onto a Drobo Pro w/ 8x2TB drives. The drive should be big enough. And my plan is to just get another Drobo if need be and daisy chain them together. I am not editing off of them (Drobo ***** for that!), just need a very reliable backup / storage solution.
However, due to my paranoia, I want a mirror of the drive(s) just in case there is a fire at the office, flood, theft etc. Just can't have all this footage existing in 1 location.
We are a small operation so things like Xserve seem a little much to me. Any ideas on options? Is it as simple as we have to get a second Drobo and make a copy of the main one and keep it off site? Is tape backup a good option? Online would be great, but 20TB+?
Need advice! Thanks in advance

You will need Screen Spanning Doctor(SSD) with your iMac to get 2 different screens. Of course, if you are a UNIX geek and know how, you can turn off mirroring in the terminal. SSD is a lot simpler for us non-geeks. You should be able to find it on VersionTracker.com or MacUpdate.com
With an expanded screen, you might still be unable to use your 1920x1080 or whatever because of VRAM limitations.. I was able to run the 14" and 19" in thousands of colors, but not millions from an iBookG4. I can run the 19" at 1280x1024 and the 15" MacBookPro at 1440x900 in millions, but the MPB can handle a 30" at millions. With the iBookG4, I had to have SSD to get an extended screen. I am pretty sure the iMacG5 required that, too.
Hope this helps.

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