Video to film-out

I'm color correcting HD video for a film-out. I'm trying to preserve as much information in the blacks and whites as I can while increasing contrast.
How should I use the waveform in this particular situation? Is it safe to push tight onto the 100/0 marks in the waveform as long as I'm not going past them? What happens when transferring to film if you've crushed the blacks or pushed the highlights too far? Is it ok for a small amount of information to be lost?

Going to a film out out is an extremely sensitive and complicated process.
For a start you should really know waht stock you are printing back to? You should find this out and obtain a LUT (look Up table) that will emulate this stock on your grading monitor so you know exactly what the final product will look like.
What process are you using to go to film?
Have you calibarted and set up your grading environment properly - e.g applied the correct gamma and color space?
Are you grading in rec.709 color space to go back to film... if so you need to apply a lut so that you are viewing your material as it will appear on the final print. If not rec.709 what colorspace are you grading in - RGB etc
Essentially film has a much wider gamut and luma range than video - again eactly how much and how far you can push the material will be defined by the processes and stock etc you are printing back to.
You will be safe to go past 100 and below zero on the Waveform. Turn Broadcast safe of and see how far you can push the material - as it originated on HD video you will be limited by how far you can push it anyway as most of the information above and below will already be clipped anyway by the recording process (unless you are grading RED RAW files or some form of 4:4:4 HD Video).
Creatively there is no reason why you cant push the material past its clipping point - once a white clips for example all that will happen is that you will get a very bright area on the film with no detail. Just look at the myriad of stylised flash back sequences in the movies today that have savage contrast and clip the whites and blacks massively. Its a creative decision at the end of the day. Essentially though I would of thought you would want to retain as much detail as possible so taking the material to just the point it clips naturally is a fairly good (if a little heath robinson) guide.
I would contact a local post house and ask to speak to their Digital Intermediate specialist and obtain some advice and help before embarking on this too much further.
Film out is also expensive and no producer will thnak you for having to repeat the process to get it right.
Good Luck
JB
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