View data in Delta Queue (RSA7)

Hi,
We want to see data records available for extraction in delta queue.
Data source is 0CO_OM_NWA_2. In RSA7 it is showing 5 in total column for this datasource. When we select "Diaplay Data Entries (F2) , select update mode Delta and execute it is displaying "List contains no data"
How to view this data ?
Regards
SS

Hi,
Once you schedule the infopackage , it will pick up the data from RSA7 . Afterwards when you check the data in RSA7 by selecting update mode as delta - you won't find any records . but you can see the data in by selecting update mode - delta repetition - execute it. It will show the records which has been already transferred to BW side.
Update mode - repetition , will hold the data until the next delta is successful..
Hope i am clear..
Regards,
Siva.

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