View/modify Surround Sound Channels

I am trying to figure out an efficient way to work with 5.1 Surround that already is in that format. For example, I'd like to be able to expand the audio and see all 6 channels, so I can work with them individually. Right now, the only option seems to be to convert the configuration to 6 mono channels, and then go to each channel and manually reassign it to the correct surround channel using the pan settings. This is a REAL pain. Plus, now the channels are broken up and have to always be dealt with separately.
Why can't I expand the surround 5.1 channel configuration to see the actual channels? Am I missing something?
Thanks!

oddly enough I had the same issue a while ago, and someone at my house switched the audio language to spanish preferred and cnn didn't come out but every other station did.
it may or may not be the same situation but give it a try
menu > settings > audio > audio language. english preferred put a check mark there by highlighting it and hitting ok

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Hello,
See if this documents helps you out.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01695377&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=3809131&tmp...
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=64440
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http://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL31326/pv-77795-1/sp44473.exe
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I recently had XBMC-Live distro installed and that system was able to play 5.1 on our sound system however due to some other specific issues, I have installed arch instead (I enjoy more control over the system) but for some reason I cannot figure out the life of me as to why ALSA will not play any sort of 5.1 sound out of my soundcard.
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After two days of searching the web, reading manuals, typing and constant rebooting, I ended up with a configuration for ALSA that works fine 95% of the time. Right now I am listening to 5.1 surround sound (through upmixing) from any app I want (flash not installed, so not tested). I am writing it here 'cause I didn't find this answer to any other forum and the solution on Archwiki didn't work, so it might help a lot of people. The following .asoundrc is a slightly modified version of a .asoundrc file that could be found on alsa.opensrc.org before it went down (found it on wayback machine). Here it is:
pcm.card0 {
type hw
card 0 #change this to our device
device 0 #change this to our device
# mmap_emulation true
pcm.dmix0 {
type dmix
ipc_key 34521
slave {
pcm "hw:0,0" #change this to your device
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pcm.dsnoop0 {
type dsnoop
ipc_key 34523
slave {
pcm "hw:0,0" #change this to your device
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type asym
playback.pcm "dmix0"
capture.pcm "dsnoop0"
pcm.pasym0 {
type plug
slave.pcm "asym0"
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pcm.dsp0 {
type plug
slave.pcm "asym0"
ctl.dsp0 {
type hw
card 0 #change this to our device
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "asym0"
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 0 #change this to your device
pcm.upmix51 {
type upmix
slave.pcm "asym0"
delay 15
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This will allow for both input and output mixing, togther with 5.1 sound. I think it can be summarized to 5 or 6 lines but my brain is too bloated with all the linux audio crap right now to even think about it..
In some cases, in KDE, when some phonon based apps like Bangarang or Amarok are the first ones to produce sound after boot, then the sound device is locked and no other app will be able to access it and play anything. If I exit the app, play sth else, eg speakertest -c 6, then everything works fine and I can have any app produce sound (even Amarok and Bangarang). In these wicked circumstances, I noticed that KDE notifies me of some sound devices not working and falling back to some other ones (that do not necessarily have a different name). Also the login sound doesn't play and maybe it is due to this that the notification appears. In any case, after rebooting the whole thing (usually) doesn't repeat.
Another thing with ALSA that mixed things more is that, in case you have a usb webcam plugged in, sometimes its microphone becomes the default device and the above .asoundrc will stop working. To prevent this simply change the order the devices are loaded by putting the following in a file under /etc/modprobe.d:
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
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options snd-hda-intel index=0
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd_usb_audio index=1
(found here http://ramblings.narrabilis.com/alsa-no … boot-time). The aliases are probably not needed.
I am curious to see if this works for anyone else. Also, I don't know how to use alsa-equal with this .asoundrc, so any advice is welcome. (By the way, I never got alsa-equal to work with Amarok).
Last edited by tterranigma (2012-04-12 00:18:59)

Correct about samplerate_best.
Yes, but is there another app that has audio open?
Well, yes and no.. In KDE running fuser (and lsof) shows "kde4" and "kmix", but I doubt these are actually using the device, because, even with software mixing disabled, they are still listed, yet I can still play surround sound with speakertest.
Also, in KDE, I diabled/enabled (on the fly) samplerate_best several times while trying things, without restarting KDE and the results where mixed. The same with your .asoundrc and other configurations. As a conclusion, while in KDE ALWAYS restart it to be sure that the new .asoundrc is used (fastest way ctrl+alt+bksp to kill X).
A question:
Generally, in linux, everything uses ALSA (ok, also OSS) to produce sound. So .asoundrc is always in effect no matter what app we are using, right? However, before even enabling surround sound, with alsaequal installed as the deffault device (as te wiki suggests), the equalizer was used only by apps talking directly to ALSA (eg VLC, speakertest) and was ignored by phonon apps. Any explanation? On the contrary, VLC seems to ignore .asoundrc as far as surround sound and samplrate_best are concerned. What is happening?
In any case, how could I change .asoundrc to make use of alsaequal as the default, together with 5.1 sound and dmixing?

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I'm moments from making my first surround sound mix with Apac, and was wondering in a 5.1 mix which speakers the dialogue tracks should go to? ie just the front Right and Left, or these two plus the center, or all, or what?
Also, I'm reasoning the way to do it is to export to aif the dialogue and Left speaker mix, then export the dialogue with right speaker mix, etc. OR can I simply export just the dialogue, and in Apac place both the dialogue AND left speaker sound (for example) in the left speaker box? Which is the best way to go about this?
Any help would be appreciated.
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From your description, it sounds like you're not working with discrete stems (which a sound designer would give you so that they include the appropriate dialogue, effects, and music for each channel). Instead, it seems like you're exporting 2 channel audio from FCP. (am I right here?)
If that is the case, I'd recommend that you simply create a 2.0 mix in A.pack. (the viewer's playback setup [his/her receiver] can then use it's processing to fill the soundscape). In my experience, if you create a 5.1 mix from a 2 channel mix in FCP, all you end up doing is wasting space (and doubling up audio channels).
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Is it even possible to edit surround sound on a Mac Pro?!?!?!

Hello,
I've just been reading this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2924869?
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Steve
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)
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Typically 5.1 is mixed, and monitored on a 5.1 monitoring system, which means you need an audio interface and setup capable of outputting six channels of audio.
So of course the Mac Pro is capable, but not without additional multi-channel playback and monitoring hardware.
Encoded surround sound, which you hear on playback from things like a DVD, is entirely different story and the encoding is done at the end of the mixing/mastering process. Sometimes you will encode a mix in a variety of formats, Dolby Pro Logic, DTS etc.

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