Viewer in FCP 5 Skipping Frames

Hey everyone,
This is really annyoing. Everytime I try to watch something in the viewer it goes really slow/skips a lot of frames. I tried puting the playback quality on Safe RT and reduced the playback to low. That did nothing. Is there anyway to fix this so I won't have to scrub anything in the viewer?

I have the same problem, when scrubbing my footage with jkl method I notice skipped frames. My footage is DV-PAL, 3,6 Mb/s. It always worked well with FCP 4.5 and Panther. Now I've installed Tiger and FCP 5.0 (studio pack - updated) and the issue comes over. My G5 is a brand new dual 2,7, 2 Gb RAM, 2x250 Gb sata. The disks are empty, the application is on the system's one and the footage on the other. Does anybody noticed the same issue ?
What should I do ?
Thanks.

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>
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[email protected]
/\/\ichael
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