Viewing PSD's and Jpegs in Lightroom

When I open Lightroom and use the Loupe toview the files in a directory, it does not show anything other than NEF files. Why ?
I currently use Bridge and ACR to edit and process my files, but want to move across to using Lightroom, but I cant see half of my older files.
Can anyone help me out here please?
Thx. Graham

If you open a file in PS from Bridge, explorer, finder or any other browser, LR has no way of knowing about the existence of the file until you import it into LR's catalog.
If you open a file in PS, Silver efex or any other external editor from LR then the newly created file is automatically imported in the LR database (the catalog).
File browsers such as Bridge, windows explorer or osx finder use the OS's folder structure. LR doesn't. LR is a database. For a file to be seen by LR it has to be imported into that database.
You would be much better either, using LR to manage files, including opening in PS etc., or using Bridge and the SilverEfex plug in for PS rather than the LR plug in. Using both in the way you describe is adding unnecessary steps to your work flow.
By the way, Silver Efex pro should work directly from LR or as a plug in from PS. When used as a plug in in PS you have the advantage of applying the effects as layers.

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Viewing both RAW and JPEG files in iPhoto (or somehow on a Mini)

I'll be traveling later this year and I'm looking to get a tablet so I can view and do some light editing of my images while I'm on the road.
If I use the new Apple SD card reader to download image files from my camera to the iPod Minin, it is my understanding that by default it brings over both the RAW and JPEG versions of the same images (my camera is taking both types with each image).
Will these then show up as two separate images in iPhoto? The reason I'm asking is because if I have to bring over the RAW files, I want some way of then deleting them off my iPad because they take up to much HD space.
No one I've talked to at Apple seems to know if there's a way to bring over just the JPEG files I want when using the SD card reader, which seems like a huge oversight in functionality to me.
Thanks. David

Leonie, you have pretty much confirmed what I found out as well.
When using the Apple SD card reader there is no way to only import JPEG files when there are corresponding RAW files on the card. The iOS or photo import app treats them as one image and imports both files together, regardless of the fact that most apps will not read or edit the RAW files and also that they take up a huge amount of space.
I've only found one way of getting rid of the Raw files, but still 'keeping' the Jpegs: import them all to the iPad, then edit the images in an app like Snapseed, then do a 'save as' (which Snapseed does by default) so you've created new Jpeg files; you can then go back and delete the originals.
That seems like a whole lot of work to get around the iPad's lack of functionality, and because of this I'm looking at an Asus Nexus 7 tablet instead. Besides all this, the Nexus allows me to copy files back to a flash drive or memory card, adding to it's usefulness.
I think this is a huge design flaw on Apple's part. It's one they could easily fix by giving you a choice to only importing the Jpeg files, or just Raw or both. Not a big deal really.
I sort of grok the 'paradigm' behind it, which is to have people work with data, images, or projects, and not files. But in this case, it is not serving people, especially more serious photographers. It makes me suspect if the developers even asked photographers what they would need from the iPad--sort of placing it back in the toybox, as opposed to being a real tool for photographers.
Regards, David.

Viewing both RAW and JPEG files in iPhoto

If I use the new Apple SD card reader to download image files from my camera, it is my understanding that by default it brings over both the RAW and JPEG versions of the same images to the iPad Mini (since my camera is taking both types with each image).
Will these then show up as two separate images in iPhoto? The reason I'm asking is because if I have to bring over the RAW files, I want some way of then deleting them off my iPad because they take up to much HD space.
No one I've talked to at Apple seems to know if there's a way to bring over just the JPEG files I want when using the SD card reader, which seems like a huge oversight in functionality to me.
Thanks, David.

LarryHN:
1) your suggestion will not work for the issue I'm describing: if I have both Raw and Jpeg files of the same image on my SD card, the iPad sort of lumps these together, so when I view the contents of my SD card it shows as one image/file, and if I select it and download it, it brings over both the Raw and Jpeg versions of the image, which is what I am trying to avoid and why I started the tread in the first place.
2) I spoke with sales people at two Apple stores and one person with their online sale, and none of them could addrss my issue. The online sales person said she might have to put me through to their tech people to resolve this or at least get the full, correct info. None of them were janitors.
I did find a workaround which I think will work:
Download the files over to my iPad, then use an app like Photo Manager Pro to be able to view the files by type, then select the Raw files and delete them from my iPad. This will work I hope, but seems like a lot of extra work for a device that's supposed to be user friendly--I think Apple missed the boat on this one, opting for making things 'simple' instead of functional for photographers.

Trouble importing tiffs and jpegs

I was importing an image into lightroom in 3 different formats: psd, tiff, and jpeg. I got an error message with the tiff and jpeg stating that the image was already in lightroom. The images all had the same name but were different formats. Does lightroom not recognize that the formats are different and therefore different images, or can it only import 1 format of an image? thanks

LR See's the Others as side cars to the one imported. You can put each type into another folder/directory and they will import. The you can put them all in the same folder from with LR.
This behavior is likely to change, because some many have complained about it. It was not supposed to happen between these three file types, but was impimented for RAW +JPEG pairs, as the JPEG was cnsidered a 'preview' sidecar and JPEGs based on prcessing the RAW could be easily exported at anytime. After much bru-ah-ah, this appears that it will change.
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In PSE 13, when I open a folder, jpeg files have a preview image, but PSD, DNG and CR2 files don't. Also, no thumbnail below the file list.

Working in PSE 13, when I open a folder, jpeg files have a preview image, but psd files just have white sheet of paper as preview. I have to open the file to be able to see it. Also, there is no thumbnail of the file below the file list.Surely, there's a setting that needs to be changed. I did not have this problem with Elements 12. This is a real bother because I have to use Lightroom to see all the file types. It seems as if Elements is using the standard Windows file loader that can't show previews of file types it doesn't know including .PSD, DNG and CR2. Is that a bug or did I do something wrong? Thanks for any help.

I am using Windows 7 64 bits. Working in the editor, I never use the organizer. The screen above is not the same at all that I got in Elements 12, it was completely different and showed me a thumbnail below the listing when I single clicked on one of the files. In Elements 12, I also could see a thumbnail of all the file types, not only the jpegs. It is as if the loader is the regular Windows used anywhere, not the right one for Elements. I hope someone understands my problem.. Thanks.
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Workflow with raw for editing (offline) and JPEG for viewing

Hello,
Up to this point I have been using both Lightroom and Aperture. I do my editing in Lightroom, my raw files are in indexed in Lightroom's catalog. I then export to JPEGs and store them in Aperture for viewing, (internet) export, archiving etc.
I want to switch to a Lightroom-only workflow, so I have both my raw files and the JPEGs in one application, to minimize maintenance (keywords, collections, etc).
The only issue I cannot seem to work around (and also exists in the current workflow) is that if at some point after the initial JPEG export I reedit a photo, I have to reexport, reimport, add to my stack (different versions of the image), update keywords etc etc.
One obvious solution is not to export to JPEGs and keep the raws always available. But this is not local-space efficient.
Any ideas how to handle this?
Thanks in advance

Hi ahalatsis,
I understand the desire for having copies readily viewable outside Lightroom without having to export every time you wanna look at something. I recommend using a publishing service for accomplishing this goal, if not Lr's native hard drive publishing, then my (Rob Cole) TreeSyncPublisher or Jeffrey Friedl's Collection Publisher.
Note: you can take raws offline after publishing, but they must remain in the catalog for editing...
Whether to re-import jpegs upon publishing is an interesting question - I don't do it, in order to keep Lightroom "originals only", so if I see a photo in Lightroom, I can edit it and publish it without thinking. The downside: I have to use other programs for dealing with those exported jpegs (I use ACDSee for that, among others). So, some people like to re-import exported jpegs, and just be careful not to edit the jpegs - personal preference.
There are some (relatively few) souls who prefer to edit raws, export jpegs back to catalog, then remove raws from catalog and archive them "just in case" (editing jpegs from there on out, if need be). While it's doable, and there are some plusses (e.g. making minor tweaks to such jpegs is very fast compared to raws), I can't recommend it, since it's too limiting, and most people shoot raw to be less limited (for example, re-editing 2003 raws using current (2012) process version).
To be clear: photos do not have to be online for viewing (or editing of metadata) in Lightroom - that's what the "lib" previews are for. And you can even create "smart" previews and then photos don't even have to be online for editing in develop module (or exporting/printing at reduced quality) either. They do have to remain in the catalog though, even if offline.
And to be doubly clear: if you don't have enough space on internal drive(s) for photo files, you can just put them on a big external drive in the first place, and never move them.
Cheers,
Rob

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Ideally you will want to set this at the import stage, in the import dialogue box the Raw+JPEG Pairs menu gives you the option to bring them in as separate masters.
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When I export Jpegs from Lightroom, I set the dpi to 300 pixels per inch. I do not specify a max width or height. When I view these files in Adobe Bridge (CS2 or CS3) the file info says 300dpi. However, when I open the files in Photoshop and select image size, It says 72dpi and has the document size set to very large. I realize that I can enter 300 dpi and uncheck the resample box, I am just confused as to why this is happening.
My concern is, that I upload my images directly to my lab after exporting from Lightroom. Will this cause problems?
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Import RAW and jpeg

If I try to import both RAW and JPEG from the same folder or from the same card LR only imports the RAW files. I usually shoot RAW and JPEG simutaneously so they both have the same filename but different file types. Photshop handles this OK so whats going on?

It would probably have been better to start a new thread, rather than attaching your new question on the end of a 3 year-old thread, but anyway, by JEP do you mean JPG? Where are you seeing JEP/JPG? The RAW files from your camera won't say .RAW as the extension, but .CRW or .CR2 if Canon RAW and .NEF if Nikon RAW, and perhaps some other extension for a different manufacturer.
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For learning photography, shutter, aperture, ISO and focal-length are mostly what you'd need, along with white-balance color-temperature which is visible in Develop mode. Some camera-manufacturer-specific programs can also show things like which focus-points were enabled, but Lightroom works with many, many cameras from various manufacturers and things like focus-points are recorded differently from each manufacturer so LR doesn't attempt to decode and show such less-standardized information.
If you really want to see ALL the information encoded in an image--the EXIF data, then download EXIFtool and drag-and-drop an image to the EXE that has (-k) in the name and you'll see a very long list of information, most of it irrelevant to general photography and, again, different for different cameras, where LR is trying to show things that are common to all cameras.
EXIFtool is available from: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

RAW and JPEG as one thumbnail ?

Hi there,
is it possible to view RAW+JPEG as one thumbnail in Bridge like in Lightroom? I shoot RAW and JPEG and so i see the same picture 2 times. One RAW Version and one JPEG.
I want to see them both as one thumbnail. They should be grouped together. So if i delete it the RAW and the JPEG version gets deleted.
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regards,
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You still don't understand what i mean and you seem to have no idea what i'm talking about. But it's okay..
Maybe you should read a little more about how LR works before you write about things you clearly don't know anything about.
i explain it to you one last time: I have RAW and JPEG Files. I'm looking only at the RAW Files when i sort out my photos and i don't want to delete the JPEGs manually. So i want Bridge to stack JPG+RAW together so they both get deleted when i delete the image. it's not that hard to understand actually
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Is there a way of opening up old PSD documents and photos on the iMac please?

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Help with managing RAW and jpeg images and installing iphoto 9

Greetings: Fist, let me make the neophyte apology and plea - I'm sorry, I should have come here first; I didn't and now I need your help.
I have just purchased a macbook pro (still in its box) with updated software for my older imac os x. I have a number of Canon related photo editing programs (that came with my 40D digital SLR) and Adobe photo elements 6 for mac on the imac. Following some erroneous advice I have made a complete mess of the pictures folder's content by trying to delete images directly from that folder (there are now 6000+ images in the folder, many of which are duplicates(?). Most of the images are not tagged or labeled and some have been organized in/by iphoto (I corrupted the iphoto's library structure very early on by disrupting and editing its images - which might explain why iphoto had a difficult time 'finding' and displaying some of my photos). The picture folder now holds jpegs, smallRAW images (a Canon 40D photo format) and various duplicates of the orignal images - (some of the duplicates don't display as images, but as jpeg logos, which, when opened contain duplicate image or are completely black) The first time I downloaded RAW images into iphoto 6 the RAW data displayed as a black image. When shooting in smallRAW on the Canon 40D, the camera produces a jpeg image for 'easy viewing and editing in the camera' but it looks as though iphoto 6 made duplicates of the jpeg and the RAW data and stored them in different locals in the picture file. In an attempt to get the number of images down, I have been trying to delete them from the picture folder. (My daughters both download images rather indiscriminately in hopes of 'editing them on the computer' which inevitably does not happen) and there is a lot of experimental bracketing of images - shooting raw and different Camera formats etc., all of which need to be cleaned up before I proceed.
Sometime in the not-too-distant future I would like to have iphoto 9 running on my imac with a clean library of images and a seamless way of downloading, editing and storing images (including the RAW data).
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I've been looking through some other discussion boards and it looks like I'm not the only one having RAW image issues. I know that shooting smallRAW with the companion jpeg is probably not helping things but I take my camera equipment on extended canoe trips - and we like the ease of on-the-spot editing with this format.
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Terence, Is the picture folder the primary source for the images or does that data reside somewhere else?
If you gathered them there, then yes.
I really don't want to have to go through 14,000 images looking for the pictures that I want to keep (or is that my only option?).
Only you can decide what you want to keep.
Why does the computer keep making copies of the images and filing them under date and events?
That's how iPhoto works. It's not a problem usually, only you did go in there and make a problem, and now we are trying to fix it.
You advise not to muck around in the picture file via preview,
No I don't. I advise not to much around in the iPhoto Library Folder.
but if I download images through a program other than iPhotos - image capture or adobe aren't I doing that anyway?
Adobe what? Adobe is a software manufacturer who make many excellent applications, you need to be more precise. And no, if you import photos with Image Capture or “adobe” no you are not interfering with the iPhoto Library Folder.
Can you edit a base image file somewhere and remove it from the HD without iphoto making a copy of it and storing it somewhere else?
This is stunningly easy. Don't use iPhoto. Use an image editor.
I want to look the negatives, decide which ones I want and throw the rest away. Can that be done or am I way off course?
Yes, and iPhoto (or similar apps) make this really easy.
Hook up your camera. Import the pics to iPhoto. Go through the imported pics. Trash the ones you don't want. Then process the ones you do. But you must learn how to use iPhoto to do this successfully
To trash: put the pic in the iPhoto trash and empty it. This removes the file from iPhoto and the Hard Disk.
Process it: If you want to use another editor: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Regards
TD

Add layers from other psd file and retain text layers (Batch processing)

I want to batch process a large number of portraits adding text info from the filename (year_name_number.jpg) to existing text layers. I want to make a template psd file containg the correct labeled text layers formatted and adjusted (With bleding effects and more) How can i add layers from an other psd file to the active document and retaining the text layers editable. The place command in PS5 adds the file as a smart object, no use.
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I tried the combined action/script way, but no joy so far. Right now i am making the text layers with a action, then calling the script from the action. It works but its difficult to make different templates from adjusting a action.
The code i am using now (in combination with a action creating the 3 text layers and other grapchical elements)
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T3.contents = mySplitResult[2]
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norway_photo wrote:
Here is my intended workflow:
- A set of same size portraits labeled "year_name_number.jpg"
- A template.psd os same size with graphical elements and text layers (named "year", "name" and "number")
- A script or action copy/pasting og adding all layers from the template.psd file to the open portrait file, retaining text layers editable.
- A script (The one i have working) changing the text layers added from the template to text from the filename.
- A action saving this as a PDF ready for print.
This way i can process a large number of portraits, add names and other information and save it as a file ready for print.
I can image it is much easier to edit a template than writing a script or an action creating all the graphical elements.
And even better, to change this template for different customers/departments/logos.
Basically i need a way to add layers to an open file using a batch file or script.
Eivind
OK I understand what your trying to do and now I do not agree with your conclusion you made in you first append about place being no good for you. Its is I think a perfect solution for you. I feel you need to address the process from a new angle.
I am very familiar with templates I use them all the time for collages which I populate with an actions. However I do not batch this process and my process is interactive. If you look at what your trying to do from the angle of creating a collage. You will see what you are trying to do is automate the population of a single image collage using a single template in a batch process. An example of one of my single image collage populated by one of my actions that has been saved as a jpeg image file. My actions are played in Photoshop with no document opened. After my action is play there is a single collage document in Photoshop that contains layers that can be tweaked all text is in text layers the can be edited.
If I wanted to automate the batch population of a single collage template I think all I would need to know is three thing.
1.) The location of the input images
2.) The full Path of the PSD template file.
3.) The location to store the output file
Looking at some of the recent threads in this forum I could almost cut and past the script you want to put together. There was a recent thread that had javascript code to process files in a folder and process only a list of file types. There also was a thread that had a place function in it to place images into the current document or create a new document to place the image into. The image was read from the web using a URL. This thread has code to change a text layer. At first I though you may need to open these image file to get at its meta-data to get the Portrait image Exif creation data. But see all you need is the Filename for it has the data you want the year and name. So the function that get the image files from the folder will give you that. The Script needs to Open the Template PSD file and retrieve the prototype text layers text content then the scrip needs a loop that get the next image file to be processed from the folder get filename function. In the loop the image files are place into the open template above a place holder layer like the Background layer. Then using the prototype text contents and the filename are used create the new content for the text layer and then change the text layers content to it. Follow that up with a save as for the output file. Once the output file is saved delete the placed smart object layer. When this loop ends the script will close the document with no save and end. As for the three inputs you need the script could either have a dialog like the images processor or simply prompt you for the folders and template file.

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