Viewing raw + jpeg problem

I shoot raw + jpeg. When I import from camera or from folders on my hard drive, both the raw and jpeg versions are transferred, but I only see the raw. There is no extension, but I can tell it is the raw because of the info in the metadata. I know the jpeg transferred, because it is in the packet, and I can make it appear by using the "copy from master jpeg" feature. But that duplicates the image in the packet.
The real problem is that I have thousands of processed jpeg images that share the same filename as the raw, except for the extension (.cr2 for raw and .jpg for jpeg). But when I import, I only see the raw version and not all the cropped, color corrected one. And when I shoot raw + jpeg, I don't see the jpeg. I want to view both, because sometimes the camera jpeg version is sufficient, and then I don't need to post process the raw.
How can we view both the raw and jpeg when shooting raw + jpeg and when importing images that have the same name for both (such as 051204photo01.cr2 and 051204photo01.jpg)? Until I can figure this out, I've had to stop importing all photos and using Aperture, because I am unable to easily view the thousands of processed photos I've created (only the raw version is displayed, though both are in the packet)
Paul

Sam:
It works like a charm. Here's how I tested. I shot 2 photos as Raw+Jpeg. I then put the CompactFlash card in my reader and confirmed there were 4 pics (2 raw, 2 jpeg, with the versions sharing the same name but different extension). First I imported the normal way by dragging the folder into Aperture. I end up seeing only 2 photos. Next I copied from the flash card to my hard drive and added a folder called JPEG Folder inside the folder (at the same level as the photos). I moved the jpeg pics into it and left the raw outside. This gave me an outer folder that contained 2 raw pics and a folder (containing the 2 jpegs). I dragged that into Aperture, and I now see all 4 photos. I used smart stack to separate them into 2 pairs. Unfortunately the thumbnails don't include extensions (we should have the option to turn them on). But using the inspector, I found that the raw was the first one, with the jpeg to its right. I can now compare them and delete one or the other. As a test I did just that, trashing the raw version of one pic and the jpeg of the other.
You mentioned that the project needs to contain all files. I noticed when I first stumbled on this problem that both versions are indeed in the packet. We just aren't able to see the jpeg version on import if it's in the same folder as the raw. By moving it into a separate album, Aperture then "sees" the jpeg version that is there all the time. This seems the only sensible way to deal with the files when shooting raw+jpeg.
Paul

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In the german speaking forum www.apertureforum.de the same situation was asked (if I understood you right): http://www.apertureforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=99&highlight=raw+jpg
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A bit confusing...
I shoot RAW+Jpeg. My Jpeg's are B&W by in-camera choice, I have a Canon 5D w/ Picture Styles.
I import into Aperture from the CF card. It shows only the RAW pix, as it should.
When I browse the Project folder for these new pictures, select them, and choose New Version From Master JPEG, the Jpeg's come in stacked with their RAW counterparts, and they appear in thumbnail not as B&W but same as RAW color converted. If I unstack, there is no change of the Jpeg to B&W. If I view the Jpeg in the Viewer, finally I see it as B&W. This doesn't work for me. I want the B&W thumbnail.
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Hey Karen,
Thanks for coming in on this, you were very helpful w/ directing me to bringing up the Jpegs from behind the RAWs with New Version from Master JPEG in one of my other queries.
I want to reference your comments as paragraphs 1), 2), 3), 4), if I might, so as to shorten the text here:
1) My images are in a Project folder, from there I created an Album.
While in the Album I selected all the images, and clicked on New Version from Master JPEG. The JPEGs came in seperately, i.e. not stacked with the RAWs, and the thumbnail appearance was B&W, which is what I was hoping for.
I Keyworded all the images in the Album, and then for kicks and confirmation, I tested the keywords in a search, my search was totally baffling.
When I searched for my "B&W" keyword, only the color Raws came forward, why? I don't know, there was no such keyword used on these images.
Also, I discovered that none of the JPEG's were showing up in the Project folder.
Next, I decided to select the RAW pictures in the Project folder. I then applied New Version from Master JPEG, and the Jpegs came up stacked with the RAWs.These JPEGs showed now in both the Project folder and the Album. But the problem for me was that both the RAW and JPEG were in color, identical to each other.
When I unstacked these stacks and Keyworded either in the Project or Album folders, indeed, they were searchable. But mind you, no thumbnail was to be seen that was B&W in appearance, and this was unacceptable, I count on being able to see the B&W thumbnail.
And, more confusingly, other earlier Albums have not all had the same problems with bringing in B&W thumbnails.
2) The smart album that I'm refering to here is the Library root select folder that has the 5 stars. It should have no problem collecting my 5 star images, wherever they are. Or so I thought. But quite a few 5 star images were not making it into this smart folder.
But now, since your writing, I went into a couple of Projects and had to manipulate the images to appear, which they finally did in both the smart folder in a Project, as well as the root "Select" folder in the Library. So now they show up in both places as they should. The solution was to make sure that the 5-star image was the Pick of a stack for it to show up in a "select" smart folder. I'm a little disappointed that stack internals seem to escape the search. I think this problem needs to be remedied. Until then, I guess I have to just be more diligent.
3) Thank you, I'll hit this link a little later, I have paid some attention to this site, it's been really helpful.
4) I did go to this site, unfortunately nothing here has helped my problem with the Jpegs.
.......todd

Problems exporting RAW + JPEG Pairs

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Problems viewing RAW photos properly in Photoshop/Lightroom/ACR

Hey folks. New here and looking to find some assistance with a problem I'm having in Photoshop CS4, Lightroom 2 and Adobe Camera Raw 5.7 when attemtping to view RAW photos straight from my Canon 450D. My computer is a Mac PowerPC G5 running OS X 10.5.8 with a single 1.8Ghz CPU and 3.5Gb of RAM. Photoshop CS4 is version 11.0.2. Lightroom is version 2.7. Adobe Camera Raw is version 5.7.
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I'm on the current Aperture and face the following situation: I have a memory card containing photos shot partly as jpeg-only and partly as jpeg&raw.
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I shot raw and jpeg since I was on a trip through the US and my Macbook broke so I had to use my iPad to upload the photos to my blog. Unfortunately the iPad software (iPhoto etc.) does not allow to change the resolution and with that the filesize of the photos. Uploading of hundreds of photos of more than 2 mb over public wifis on campgrounds etc is simply not possible, so I used the following workaround: Set raw+minimum jpeg size as file format and upload the small jpegs to the blog while keeping the raw on the memory card for later use.
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I'm Aperture user from the the very first version (when it was like hundreds of Euros), and I sadly cannot say that I'm surprised of the lack of support for non-standard workflows.
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RAW files: View embedded JPEG next to RAW file

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Sorry to bring up an old post, but this is exactly my question.
Can I access a camera embedded JPG as a reference. I know I can't use it for the basis of editing but I would like to see it just the same. I know some other tools can do this, but can LR2 show that JPG.
Ideally it would be an X-Y comparison to my current image.
Thanks,
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Photoshop Elements 8 - unable to view RAW files

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I have been using Adobe Elements 8 since it came on to the market. I use Canon Cameras and my latest one being a 1Dmkiv.
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Best regards

Thanks so much for your reply. My problem appeared to be that most of the thumb
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Photoshop elements 6 raw image problems.

PROBLEM 1: I recently purchased a Canon 7D and got a free copy of PSE6, and I had to upgrade to camera raw 5.6 to view raw files. I am now able to view raw files, but still get a error; "DLL c:\Programfiles\adobe\photoshop elements 6.0\Plug-Ins\Camera_raw_5_6\win64\camera raw .8bi is not a valid windows image. Please check against your installation diskette." I'm not sure what's going on does anyone have any advice?
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Different colors from RAW+JPEG mode of my camera

The same issue of always... color profile.
I shot my entire trip thru Europe using RAW + JPEG Basic mode of my Nikon D40 digital camera. Oddly, the JPEG files are looking MUCH MUCH better, because iPhoto assigned the correct color profile to the files, instead of signing all RAW files as Adobe RGB. (I have Adobe RGB option on my camera, but I shot as sRGB).
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Hi Dave,
yes, thats generally what i want to do.
I have the PEF-Files out of my camera and i convert them with the Adobe DNG converter to the DNG format. The old Pentax K100D is using uncompressed PEF, thats why the pictures are twice the size than the converted DNG
If i import these files for further processing into Lightroom, they are looking similar to the originals viewed with another application (e.g. the pentax development tool) for a second, after that Lightroom is changing the preview to the settings of the Adobe Profile. Colors are much more colder and less colorful. If i try to change the profile in the developement tab, there are no visible changes to the picture.
I've downloaded the DNG Converter and Camera RAW. There are several profiles included, but i don't know how to use them with Lightroom or Photoshop CS4 (with installed ACR).
I've created a screenshot of the differencies so you know what i mean.
Screenshot
On the left side you can see the developed JPEG via PEF out of the Pentax-Software (Silkypix), on the right is the developed JPEG out of the DNG via Lightroom. Both files are without any further changes to the development process.
The left picture corresponds to the original conditions.

I am having issues when I shoot raw + jpeg. Raw files seem corrupt!!

I am having issues when I shoot raw + jpeg. It seems the raw files get corrupted. I have shot raw without an issue. It is only when I shoot raw + jpeg. The raw files will not show in Photoshop elements. I installed the Canon software and was able to see all the raw files; however, I noticed that when I tried to view some full screen they would not show. I also noticed that these raw files look block-ish. They appear more digital looking. Is there a specail card needed to shoot raw + jpeg? I formatted the ones that I have prior to using them.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

While it could certainly be a card-reader problem, data corruption of any kind can be any of the following:
1) the card
2) the cable (if used)
3) the card reader (if used)
4) the computer RAM,
5) thecomputer hard drive (or SSD)
A failure of any one of the above will result in corrupted images when viewed. Since it seems to be RAW file related, as they are signifantly larger than JPGs, it's likely anything but the card reader or cable.
The only way to 'beat it' is eliminate each of the possibilities, starting with the easiest/cheapest fix.
1) Use the cable. If that solves the problem, replace the card reader.
2) Use a different card. If that solves it, toss the old card.
3) If multiple sticks of internal computer RAM, swap them. If that fixes it, or, the problem 'moves' to other images, replace the RAM. It could be only 1 of 2 sticks bad, though, so use only 1 of the old sticks for a while to see if the problem recurs.
4) If you have multiple hard drives in your computer, or an external one, use that to store the photos for a while. If the problems go away, it's the drive. Note that hard drive failures typically start slowly and increase gradually. On occassion, though, your computer won't boot and it's all over. If you are down to thinking it's the hard drive, it's time to get a good backup...NOW!
For what it's worth, I had a similar problem with corrupted photos. Both RAW and JPGs were affected. But as the problems were after having loaded and initially viewed them on my HD, I knew it was a computer problem. It dogged me for a couple of weeks. I even played swap the memory sticks, pull one out and run on one only, swap the one for the other (running on one), and it STILL kept happening. I finally gave up and replaced both sticks of RAM. That solved the problem. So much for lifetime warranty from Hong Kong. A very well regarded brand of RAM, no less. My SSD drive was the next one on the list, it the new RAM didn't solve it.

Canon 5DII RAW+jpeg does not download

When I select RAW+jpeg quality only 2 jpegs download. I am using PhotoShop Elements 7 and there has never been a problem until Canon Irvine updated the firmware. I don't in anyway blame the firmware update but what do I do now to get 1 RAW file and 1 jpeg file?
I have also updated the Adobe RAW plugin software.
Bob AZ

Check what version of ACR you are using. It may no longer be compatible with the latest firmware in the camera.
Element 7 dates from Fall 2008, is based upon Photoshop CS4, and Adobe only updates their older versions to a point. Then you have to upgrade to a newer version.
Elements 7 can use up to ACR 5.6. The current Elements 11 uses ACR 7.2.
According to Adobe, 5DII requires ACR 5.2 or later. However, it's possible the firmware update to the 5DII (2.1.2, released Feb. 2012) made changes that now require something later than ACR 5.6, which would necessitate upgrading your version of Elements.
This happened to me back when I went from 30D to 50D... First I found I needed to update Photoshop. Then I found that I needed to update my computer's operating system in order to use the newer version of Photoshop. In the end, I bought a whole new computer because the newer OS and Photoshop would have seriously bogged down on the old computer! That was one expensive camera upgrade!
You have alternatives.
For one thing, you don't have to download via Elements. You should be able to see the image files on the memory card in Windows Explorer (or the Mac equivalent, if you're not a Win PC user). In Explorer you'll see the file listed, but will not be able to see actual thumbnails of the CR2 files... Unless you install a codec that allows it. If using a 32 bit operating system, there's a free Canon codec. If using a 64 bit OS, you'll need to go with a third party codec that might cost a few dollars (I'm using one that's called FastPictureViewer, which cost me $15 US per computer if memory serves... this has the advantage of allowing me to view not only Canon RAW file previews and thumbnails, but also many other camera manufacturers' proprietary RAW formats). This is just a convenience, really, being able to see the RAW file as a thumbnail and preview it in Windows, prior to converting it.
With or without the codec installed, you can simply use Explorer (or the Mac equiv.) to drag and drop, move or copy the image files to a folder on your computer, bypassing Elements entirely. This is at least as fast, might be even faster.. But doesn't allow you to do some other things with the files during the download, such as renaming or adding copyright info. I do this all the time, since I am often downloading multiple memory cards and busy with my RAW conversion software getting started on editing the images already downloaded.
Once the CR2s are on your computer, you still have the same problem being unable to view and open the CR2 files in your older version of Elements.
You could convert them to DNGs. There's a free DNG converter available for download from Adobe. The DNGs should work fine in Elements 7 (and have an added, modest advantage that they don't need the small "sidecar" file to save conversion data, like other types of RAW files do).
Or, once the CR2s are on your computer, you could use a different program for the conversions. There are several freeware RAW converters available (GIMP, for example). I haven't used any of them recently, so can't really recommend one over the others.
Or just spend around $100 for a new copy of Elements 11 and be fully up to date with that software, able to continue downloading via Elements if you wish, and have some of the newer tools that have been added in more recent versions of the software. I saw a big improvement in noise reduction quality, for example, going from Photoshop CS4 to CS5 (Elements 7 is based upon CS4). I don't use Elements (I use Lightroom and Photoshop), but am sure there are other improvements you might find worthwhile, too.
Alan Myers
San Jose, Calif., USA
"Walk softly and carry a big lens."
GEAR: 5DII, 7D(x2), 50D(x3), some other cameras, various lenses & accessories
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"Error while relocating" after deleting RAW from RAW+JPEG pairs (Important FYI)

This is not a question, but something I recently discovered that I think will be important for the Aperture community.
Not too long ago, I asked a question about how to remove the RAW files from RAW+JPEG pairs. The concensus was that it couldn't be done through Aperture, but that one could delete them through the Finder. The answer I got (and that has popped up in other threads on similar topics) was "it's probably not wise, but as far as I know, it won't have an adverse effect." I don't think any response along these lines has been able to point to a specific problem that can arise from such a "hack." Well, I found one today...
It appears that if a user uses Finder to "break" RAW+JPEG pairs by deleting the RAW file and leaving the JPEG (and I assume this goes for deleting the reverse), Aperture will NOT be able to "Relocate Originals..." Instead, "Aperture will return the error: Error while relocating (File not Found): "(null)". I ran into this error the other day while trying to change my file structure by relocating all files. I regularly ran into this error, and it was only after some extensive that I was able to narrow it down 100% of the time to the RAW+JPEG pairs I had "broken." I haven't encounterd any other adverse behavior from "breaking" these file pairings, but this one, at least, could be serious.
So, for future reference, I think the response by the Aperture community when someone asks "How do I delete the RAW file from RAW+JPEG" pairs, should be "Use Finder if you must, but please note Aperture will not be able to 'Relocate Originals..
PS This should NOT be understood as a criticism of those who have responded to this question in the past. There's obviously no way to know about these little quirks until one of us stumbles across them. I hope this information will be helpful going forward, both as a caution when deleting one of the pair, and as a possible answer for the "Error while relocating" message.
PPS I don't think I ran across an explanation for this when I originally searched for the error message bolded above.
If someone has already provided this information, my apologies.

Frank Caggiano wrote:
Interesting the last post before this one you posted was back in May 2011 Removing RAW, keeping JPG?
Thanks for that thread. That helps jog ye olde memory. As such, I would edit my original thread to read "The concensus I gathered from researching multiple responses to questions similar to mine was that it couldn't be done through Aperture*, but that it was possible from Finder though highly inadvisable." I won't bother recreating my research at the time (not even sure I could, since it was more than two years ago), but suffice it to say that the thread you've linked was not my sole encounter with this problem. I do appreciate that you've reminded me that this was not something I had done solely through numerous posts on Apple Discussions. I imagine I likely spent time reading multiple posts here and elsewhere, uncovering the concensus (which i think is still a fair term) that it could not be done through Aperture*, could be through Finder, but was inadvisable.
*This is still accurate, afaik. You cannot delete the pair from a RAW+JPEG pair in Aperture. Exporting, then deleting in Finder, then reimporting is still not something "done in [entirely] Aperture."
Frank Caggiano wrote:
No one actually told you to delete anyting in in the Finder you came up with this yourself as your own solution
This comes from the critical mistake on my part of not making clear that I was paraphrasing multiple responses rather than saying "Bob told on a Monday that i should..." That is one huge mea culpa and I'd edit it if I could. To be clear, my comment that "it's probably not wise, but as far as I know, it won't have an adverse effect" is a paraphrase of multiple answers to the broad question dealing with how Aperture handles files that have been deleted in Finder. At the time, it was known that you could delete a file in Finder, that Aperture could be made to accept that, that it might cause issues further down the road, but that those issues were unkown. I paraphrased that but failed to make it clear that's what I was doing. Again, my apologies.
Frank Caggiano wrote:
So I'm not really sure what it is you are coming back here now to say? There was no 'consensus' to do this, it was your own 'solution'
In this respect, I think you've misunderstood me. At the time I made this post, I still was not seeing a direct connection between deleting files in Finder and adverse consequences in Aperture (or perhaps I should say my searches did not turn up such a connection). As such, I made this post to provide the community with clear evidence of why one should not delete one-of-a-pair files in Finder. Again, I may have simply missed the thread that detailed that to do so would result in a null error when relocating Masters. That said, in July 2013 I had been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I was getting the null error and I did not see a thread that asked "have you deleted files in Finder" as a way to troubleshoot.
Hopefully, I've cleared up any confusion now. To bring this all back around to my original point for the thread, I intended it to (1) offer a more direct way to troubleshoot the null error on relocating Masters, and (2) to offer a cautionary tale for those who choose to delete one of the RAW+JPEG pair in Finder. There are better (though more time- and space-consuming) ways to get it done, and my original post should help demonstrate why.

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