Viewing stereo tracks in arrange window?

Hello. I created an interleaved stereo audio file. But the track looks graphically like it's mono in the arrange window. Is there a way to have a graphical representation that it is a stereo file (like in Live, Pro Tools, Studio Vision, etc...)? (If I double click on the track, the file editor shows that it's stereo, but I want to see this in the arrange window.)
It's got to be possible, right?
A

no it's not possible or even generally desirable.
at least in PT, files are split stereo only. they are actually 2 mono files linked together. interleaved works differently. for editing, combined view of both sides as one waveform is actually better for editing unless you need to edit one side of the stereo file. in this case you will need to convert it to split stereo.
the interleaved stereo file you see will show sidedness by projecting the channels either side of the mid point which is more than adequate generally. why would you need it to be different from that?

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