Vinyl to MP3

In a misguided event of generosity, Mrs P bought me an Ion turntable, not realising that it is an Applecentric product and underestimating my hatred for all things Appleish. Well, to cut a long story short, after much fiddling I managed to configure the thing so it would record vinyl, transfer it as an mp3 track over to Windows Explorer, from where it can then be sent to my Zen Xfi. The problem is that when it arrives there, any artist or title information is missing, and it just shows up as track 1 etc. Checking Creative Centrale, sadly any tracks recorded in this way are a) contained in an iTunes folder, and b) resist any attempt at editing information.
Apart from binning the Ion and getting something else, any ideas as to how to get round this problem?

Thanks dudes.
I get what you're all saying, and appreciate it.
The reason I was asking mainly is - if I put together
a CD for someone, and put one of my vinyl-->mp3
tracks on it, they're gonna turn the volume way up
for the vinyl track, forget that they did that, and
then hurt their eardrums or **** up their stereo when
the next track blasts on.
know what I'm saying?
anyhow, thanks for your help
Hi uncle alex,
Yes I understand your assumed problem...but remember...you cannot control what other people do,only whay you do...if they mess up their stereo,it is them doing it,NOT your CD.Don't ever feel guilty about it either.
Let me illustrate:
I once spent a whole week remixing an album,because the client kept saying it sounded VERY different at her stereo at home.Boomy and weird.No matter what I did in the studio,the comment stayed the same...
So, One Fine Evening,I decided to follow along and listen to my mixes through her stereo.Lo and behold,as I had suspected,the stereo had these funny "EQ Preset" buttons in the front,and guess what...they were set to "Hip-Hop EQ",loud and boomy!
The album was a Christmas songs album, so you can imagine what the stereo EQ was doing to it.
After I had removed the offending EQ setting,there was the mix I had made!!!
But,we had already wasted a whole week remixing...at least since I was mixing in TrollPools,I went back to my orignal mixes,and finished soon afterwards.
Needless to say,I learned then and there that I cannot expect the consumer or other party to listen on anything even nearly approaching what I listen to in the studio,and therefore,I don't worry about it,but I also mix for the greater common denominator...i.e. I mix listening to at least 5 different speaker systems,including crappy boomboxes,auratones,yamaha ns10s,fancy 10,000 dollar speakers,in short whatever I can get my ears on.This ensures that I did my job as well as I can,and then I can sleep better.
Cheers,
noeqplease

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Converting vinyl to mp3

I would like to convert some of my vinyl to mp3 so I can play it through iTunes, is there an easy way to do this? I have tried using spin doctor but the recording isn't the best quality, it seems to detect other sounds (ie people speaking) and the sound is a bit spacey (best description I could think of). I did try changing my sound settings in system preferences/audio but to no avail.
Does anybody know where I am going wrong or another software or method I can use?
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it seems to detect other sounds (ie people speaking) and the sound is a bit spacey (best description I could think of).
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I just converted a bunch of vinyl to digital last night, edited it a bit in logic, and then exported at the highest volume possible without distortion, and the resultant MP3s are half as loud as anything else in my iTunes.
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Thanks dudes.
I get what you're all saying, and appreciate it.
The reason I was asking mainly is - if I put together
a CD for someone, and put one of my vinyl-->mp3
tracks on it, they're gonna turn the volume way up
for the vinyl track, forget that they did that, and
then hurt their eardrums or **** up their stereo when
the next track blasts on.
know what I'm saying?
anyhow, thanks for your help
Hi uncle alex,
Yes I understand your assumed problem...but remember...you cannot control what other people do,only whay you do...if they mess up their stereo,it is them doing it,NOT your CD.Don't ever feel guilty about it either.
Let me illustrate:
I once spent a whole week remixing an album,because the client kept saying it sounded VERY different at her stereo at home.Boomy and weird.No matter what I did in the studio,the comment stayed the same...
So, One Fine Evening,I decided to follow along and listen to my mixes through her stereo.Lo and behold,as I had suspected,the stereo had these funny "EQ Preset" buttons in the front,and guess what...they were set to "Hip-Hop EQ",loud and boomy!
The album was a Christmas songs album, so you can imagine what the stereo EQ was doing to it.
After I had removed the offending EQ setting,there was the mix I had made!!!
But,we had already wasted a whole week remixing...at least since I was mixing in TrollPools,I went back to my orignal mixes,and finished soon afterwards.
Needless to say,I learned then and there that I cannot expect the consumer or other party to listen on anything even nearly approaching what I listen to in the studio,and therefore,I don't worry about it,but I also mix for the greater common denominator...i.e. I mix listening to at least 5 different speaker systems,including crappy boomboxes,auratones,yamaha ns10s,fancy 10,000 dollar speakers,in short whatever I can get my ears on.This ensures that I did my job as well as I can,and then I can sleep better.
Cheers,
noeqplease

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This is very helpful and assists with narrowing down my issue. I am converting vinyl to mp3 using a digital recording device (M-Audio Microtrak II). From there, I am moving the files to iTunes. It is possible that this device is encoding as joint stereo but all of the specification read stereo.
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I agree with Badunit.
1. It is not a great idea to convert from vinyl with all its scratches and imperfections. Better to find a digital master, such as CD, and work from that.
2. Convert to Apple Lossless as the first step, then use iTunes to convert that to whatever format and bitrate your father wants as an end file.
3. Take it into AIFF so that you can use various audio tools to normalise and clean up the sound.
The pain of having to manually label each track individually from the album sleeve would put me off, that and getting a 2nd rate result.
I converted (well actually am still converting) my vast CD collection and I am anal so check all the data and include composers, musicians and notes and it is a big undertaking.
Try and explain to your Dad that the physical records are just a sentimental attachment, it is the music he is after. How you arrive at the new format is not important.
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Can someone please tell me if this works
Open itunes, connect pod
Select all in ipod (not itunes library , while connected)
Get info
Slide the vol slider all the way to 100
Wait a few moments for the magic to happen
Then is the output louder, like it makes it on my 60gb ipod
Not just full volume half way as some suggest, but LOUDER
plugging into a recording device and watching the meter go up more is proof that my ears are not lying
My 2nd and 5th gen ipods do this but it has no effect on a classic
I would say around 60gb of my music is barely audible (Ripped vinyls so they are not as loud as CDs)
which is why Im after a 80gb 5.5 gen but dont fancy wasting more money after the fiasco called a classic ipod
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cypherism wrote:
I would say around 60gb of my music is barely audible (Ripped vinyls so they are not as loud as CDs)
Why aren't they?
I've watched your previous threads on this subject with the same trepidation as Meg St. Clair, deggie, Jeff Bryan and Zevoneer (all of whom have a lot of knowledge and earn my respect for it), but I have hesitated to respond for obvious reasons. Until now.
You mention ripped vinyl being quieter than CDs. Perhaps you should get the level right on the ripped vinyl before importing it into iTunes. Then it would be (almost) the same as CDs.
I use Audacity to rip vinyl to .mp3 for importing to iTunes. Whatever programme you use (if it's any good) should have similar feature to the one I'm about to describe. Once recorded into Audacity and trimmed to length, select all (of the file) and click on Effect/Amplify . A dialogue box comes up which tells you how much amplification will be applied and the new peak amplitude (dB). You should not go above the 0dB mark, nor should you "allow clipping" because you will introduce distortion and/or "clip off" the loudest sounds which will sound dreadful. (I actually amplify to a new peak of -0.3dB, that's my safety margin.)
I mentioned before that the file would now be almost the same as a CD. A CD has a wider dynamic range than vinyl (the difference between the softest and loudest sounds) and many recent CDs also have far more bass than vinyl, which was limited in this respect due to the technology available at the time. Consequently, your ripped vinyl-to-mp3 will probably never be as "punchy" as CD, but at least there will be less difference if the dB level is similar. You could also boost the bass in Audacity - before amplifying - but be very cautious because it's a crude adjustment and if you over-do it, the result will be very tiring when you listen to the song more than once! I speak from experience!
If you use the "boost" feature in iTunes *and it actually does something", it will probably introduce distortion, especially if you simply "blanket boost" all your mp3s by the same amount. It's a very crude method of achieving very little. it should be used selectively and with caution.
By the way, I have a 5th gen late model UK iPod and a 160GB Classic! Whether or not it, or they both have a volume cap - live with it!

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