Virtual Copies of Videos in LR4 should be able to be trimmed differently.

Virtual Copies of Videos in LR4 should be able to be trimmed differently.  Right now, if I make a virtual copy and trim a clip differently, it also affects the original.  I'd like the ability for virtual copies to be trimmed differently.

I think you're right.  I did a lightroom restart, and it seems to be working now.

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    When I create a publish gallery, I have the option of creating virtual copies. However, I notice the virtual copy stays with the original image, along with showing in the publish gallery. I would have figured the copy would only show in the publish gallery. Since I can't immediately tell where the vitual copy is linked to, it makes it confusing sometimes if I go back to re-edit. I want to isolate the photo from the orignal copy so lightroom doesn't want to republish any future edits to that file. Using lightroom 3.6. I've searched on this behavior and haven't found any helpful information.
    Any suggestions on how to more effectively use this in my workflow?

    With "publish gallery" you mean a collection under a Publish Service?
    I have not checked with LR4.2 how this behaves, but with normal collections you should get only the virtual copies as members.
    But you can remove the masters from the collection, using the filter: when in the collection, choose only master files in the filter bar, no virtual copies nor videos. Then select them all and choose simple delete: this will not remove from catalog ( as a splash-delete would do), but simply revoke their collection membership. Unlock the filter and you should have only the virtual copies left in your collection.
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  • Merging virtual copies back into original

    Hi,
    I'm using Lightroom 2 and have finally got round to creating a single master catalogue from all of my yearly ones.
    Somehow during the importing I managed to pull in a load (1400) photos without their develop settings.
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    Thanks to lightroom being able to detect duplicates on import from catalogue, I've managed to re-import the "developed" versions, keeping the originals as virtual copies. This means I now have a set of 1400 original images with the correct developing changes (and no keywords) - each one has a single virtual copy with no developing but the correct keywords.
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    Hi,
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  • Virtual copies disappeared when I synchronized folders - any idea why?

    I am in the process of learning to work with the LR3 catalog, but in the meantime, I still occasionally work with the folders on my computer. I moved some photos from one folder to a sub folder at the system level, and when I went back to LR I needed to synchronize the folders because of the change. After the sync was complete, I noticed all of my virtual copies in LR had disappeared. Is there an option to save the virtual copies during synchronization that I am missing? Or do I need to save each virtual copy with a new name before I sync anything? I would so appreciate any help on this as I know the virtual copy feature will be a very useful tool for me in the future. Thanks for any help!!

    Thank you for your answers. I definitely understand now that sync will not preserve my virtual copies, but I will somehow need to come up with a different way to manage my folders. I know that LR empasizes using the catalog as the main source for working with your photos, but the reason that doesn't work for me is that I do not always need to be in LR when I am working with my photos. Not only that, but my husband and daughter also use my photo folders on occasion, so I need to have easy access for them. Neither one of them are familiar with LR, so I use my folders to organize the photos in a way that they could find them without having to access LR. For example, I edit photos for my daughter's online business. When I am done editing, I put them in a folder for her to use that only contains the edited versions so she doesn't have to wade through the other pictures. That is much easier than teaching her how to find them in LR and then export the ones that she needs, making sure she is doing it all correctly without messing up my catalog or system folders.
    The other reason I prefer to organize my folders from my hard drive is that I prefer the viewing program in Windows. I get much bigger views of the photos than I do in LR without having to hide any other tools, boxes, etc. When I want to see the largest view possible I just double click the photo, then use my arrow key to scroll through any others. In LR, I have to hide all the additional stuff on the screen.
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  • How to make copies/duplicates of photos in LR4 - NOT Virtual Copies

    Can someone tell me if there is a SIMPLE way to make a copy or duplicate of a photo in LR4. In otherwords, you have a photo image in one folder and you want to make a copy and move it to another folder or subfolder and that copy is identical in EVERY aspect to the original photo and can be edited, manipulated, etc. without affecting the original. I can find nothing on this subject - all I keep getting is this VIRTUAL COPY which is NOT like the original and cannot be moved without the original (Master) going along with it. What's the problem? Every image program I know of can do this. BTW this in on a Mac Lion (10.8.4). Thank you, Brad

    Rikk Flohr wrote:
    new location - do not rename
    Or same (or different) location, and do rename.
    I do this regularly, but only for testing purposes. Note: Some people don't want to use virtual copies, because they are handled as "2nd class citizens" by Lightroom (e.g. not saved in xmp, and must tag along with master base copy...).
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  • LR4 won't make virtual copies

    I installed LR4.4 and now it won't create virtual copies. It says it did but none show up. The show badges is still checked in view options.

    Thank you Jim. I clicked on smart collection and then clicked it off and went to a different collection and it seems to be okay now.
    Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:21:36 -0700
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    Make sure you have filters turned off and/or make sure you're not operating out of a smart collection which excludes VCs.
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  • How to unstack (if this is the right term) virtual copies in LR4?

    i looked at this article http://forums.adobe.com/message/2881825#2881825 but it did not help. click on the 1/2 icon only makes it become "2" and doesnt sit the virtual copy next to each other.
    is "stacking" the right term im using or is there something im overlooking. last week lightroom was fine, this week its acting up without me touching anything.
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    Aloha Y'all,
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    Thanks for giving me the oompf to figure that out... Hope is helps, if any of you didn't know that.
    Message was edited by: SantaFeRick

  • Can not find virtual copies in Windows folder.

    I can not remember to have encountered this before, so here I go: I just created a virtual copy of some photos from my summer holiday, and all works well. But when I needed to access these photos going the Windows' way (Windows/My Pictures that is), the virtual copies do not appear in my YYYYMM folder. Going back to LR though, they will appear there with a /Copy 1 extension. RIghtclicking the VC, then "Show in Explorer" will highlight the original in the folder, the VC still not being there. Part of the frustration is that I can not remember this happening before (or maybe it has), so I'm wondering if I by accident have changed any settings.
    Running LR 4.1 on Windows 7 64-bit.
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    Andrew Rodney wrote:
    richardplondon wrote:
    My only point, was an observation that there is very little actual practical difference between a virtual copy and a "master" ANYWAY.
    So you have 1 master (an actual raw) and 10 VC’s. What happens to the VC’s if the master gets corrupted?
    If your master has say Adobe Standard as the DNG Profile but the VC has a custom DNG profile, what happens to the VC if that profie goes missing or gets corrupted? Try it.
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    Certainly bad things may happen to a VC if a required external file is lost or changed - but these are exactly the same bad things, as if the exact same events had happened for the "master" version alongside. I do take the point that there is protection in redundancy - no question - and also that instantly written-out metadata is a useful separate backup of one's work (as I mentioned, I'd be glad if VCs could get the same thing too somehow, someday).
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  • Virtual copies not visible

    Oh God, can some one PLEASE help me???I can't contact Adobe by phone,m too late and it says everyone else busy, try later...right. 
    I DID review as much as I could possibly read, and NOTHING is of help.
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  • Virtual copies naming issue

    When I created a virtual copy of an image in LR3, and then I renamed the images, the virtual copies would have the new name with a hyphen.
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  • (Finding and) deleting virtual copies

    Hi.
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  • Virtual copies and history?

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  • Naming Presets for Virtual Copies and PS Edits

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  • Fix stacks or decouple them from Virtual Copies

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  • Virtual copies are not synchronized in a second Lightroom catalogue although metadata are written in XMP and synchronization with metadata was selected

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