Virtual Receiver

Hi All,
Could you tell me why we use Virtual receiver in Sender Aggrement and Receiver Deteremination.
also in which scenarios do we use it:
Case1: Sender is Party
and receiver is Service without party
Case2:
Sender is Service without party
and reciever is Party
Pls advice...
XIer

good explanation
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ca/efb540efe68631e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
SAP HELP>>
Receiver-Dependent Routing
You can define receiver determinations as receiver-dependent.
You can use this property when configuring cross-company processes where not all communication parties know the entire system landscape description. In this case, you can release an external view of your system landscape for your communication parties. Your communication party then knows the externally released virtual receiver to which he can send his messages. By defining one receiver determination that is dependent on a virtual receiver, you can define the internal receiver system to which the message is to be forwarded.
If you want to create a receiver-dependent receiver determination, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox in the create dialog.The system then displays the input fields for the receiver (party, service).

As per the excerpts it can be used for both receivers (service and party)
regards
Pratibha
**correct me if i am wrong

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Hi,
we will use it when we are using B2B scenario......
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/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2008/09/16/virtual-receiver--why-do-you-really-need-it
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/xi/virtual%252breceiver%252buse%252bin%252breceiver%252bdetermination%252bb2b(Idoc%252bto%252b(File%252cIdoc%252bor%252bany%252bother%252bsystem))
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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Hey Guys,
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Hi Pritish,
Please go through these links and se if it helps.....
http://sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/how-to%20guides%20-%20rig%20official/xi/how%20to%20set%20up%20an%20xi%20integration%20directory%20scenario%20with%20party%20to%20support%20edi%20partner%20processing.pdf
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2006/09/08/b2b-and-the-hype-about-the-party
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I can find Sender uses Virtual receiver check box on both sender Agreement and receiver Determination.can you explain for what purpose and situation we should use this.
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Check "Sender uses Virtual Receiver"...What it is? .
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Hi !!
When do we use a virtual receiver and what is the concept behind it ?
Likewise, "Sender uses virtual receiver" in Sender agreement..
Thnx,
Laawanya

Hi,
In the sender agreement, you define how the message is to be transformed so that it can be processed by the Integration Engine.
You must at least specify the party or service and the interface on the sender side for both the sender and receiver.
You can use a wildcard character (*) for the receiver party, receiver service, and the sender interface (see: Generic/Specific Definition of Configuration Objects).
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Therefore, in the default setting, the receiver (party and service) is not specified during creation and the corresponding input fields are hidden in the create dialog box.
Now To specify specific values for the receiver, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox (see also: Configuring Cross-Company Processes).
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
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Edited by: Swarup Sawant on Mar 28, 2008 6:06 AM

Sender Agreement - Virtual Receiver - what is it for?

Hi guys!
When u create Sender agreement - what is Virtual receiver good for? What is the difference when u use it and not?
Thank you for answer!
Olian

Hi ! Olian
For more Information about Sender Agreement - Virtual Receiver -
refer these below links .....
the following link has something regarding Virtual receiver, check this one.
virtual receiver???
configure virtual receiver in cross system
If you want to create a receiver-dependent receiver determination, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox in the create dialog.
Check out this Rec Det steps.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Also u can chk out this blog where he hav shown the screen shot.
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/09/09/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-iii-of-iii--config-test
Also, http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/11/21/xi-idoc-to-idoc-tunneling--how-fast-and-easy-can-you-get
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/content.htm
o enter specific values for the receiver, select the checkbox Sender Uses Virtual Receiver
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/da/7a2f41b239a831e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
you want to create a receiver-dependent receiver determination, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox in the create dialog.
Check out this Rec Det steps.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Also u can chk out this blog where he hav shown the screen shot.
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/09/09/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-iii-of-iii--config-test
Also, http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
A real world scenario
/people/william.li/blog/2006/09/08/how-to-send-any-data-even-binary-through-xi-without-using-the-integration-repository
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
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When we are creating the Receiver aggrement then one check box is there that is Sender uses a virtual receiver, what is the purpose of that one and when we can use that one ?

Hi,
In Receiver Agreement you will not find this option .It will be available in Sender Agreement.
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This could be possible with using Virtual receiver.
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>
Carlos Herrera wrote:
> Hi Ravikanth,
>
> Yes, I intend to do that, but the question is, will that be enough since it will still go through the comm channel that has idoc packaging configured? In other words, will the comm channel package size act as a "max size" or "min size"?
>
> Thanks.
> Carlos
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B2B add-on

Hi,
We all know that B2B scenario involves Party to Party communication as the systems involved
in message exchange are in different landscapes.We also checkbox for sender uses virtual receiver
while creating receiver determination.
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Regards,
Mayank Yadav

Thanks All for Help,
Actually in my scenario B2B add on was installed and Parties were not used.
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