Vista on MBP

I ran the vista compatibility software on my MBP and it reports that my graphics card, the nvidia geforce M 8600GT is not compatible.
Does Apple supply the drivers for this particular card in the bootcamp setup for windows vista 32 bit?
Does anyone have vista 32 bit running ok on their MBP with this card?
Thanks for any advice.

Say what?!
The compatibility report is probably tagging the ForceWare suite, which is perfectly normal. The GeForce 8 series chips have Vista drivers from Apple as of Boot Camp 2.1. The trick is that you'll want to remove the XP drivers first. Easy enough--go to Add/Remove Programs and take out the NVIDIA software.
Pretty much the same applies to the GeForce 9 series. If you have one of the new 5G portables (including the 2G Air), you'll have to get the drivers from your Install Disc 1.
In either case, it's advisable to take out the "conflicting" drivers before you upgrade, and then re-run Boot Camp to put the Vista drivers in.
Apple article HT1999 has a list (through October) of the drivers for each model that will run with BC 2.1/OS 10.5.4. The right column will list which OSes are compatible with a particular driver. If "Universal" is listed, you can pretty much leave that driver in no matter what; Vista will either replace it with a generic or leave it until you fix Boot Camp. If the driver is listed as "XP", it may not carry over and will probably need to be removed. When you reinstall Boot Camp, you'll repair the service portions of it and install Vista drivers.
For the newer 'Books, just use your Install Disc 1 again when you upgrade.
Nate

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technicalwizard wrote:
I have a really interesting problem with this MBP and so do many others with the intel processors.
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Whenever this MBP connects wirelessly to anything (internet, peer to peer, LAN, WAN) it will lock up when ever it feels like it.
so far i have tried to lower the internal temperature, and the external temperature
Also had the MBP to pieces to to examine for burns/defects in the hardware all checked out fine. (on a seperate issue after only 10 months the inside of this computer was absolutely clogged with all kinds of matter and the over heating stopped as a result)
all hardware tests have come back clear everything from verify disk to tech tools pro and even the apple hardware test have all come back clean.
oh and the console is pretty much useless here to.
i have spent hours testing this laptop and the os has been reinsatlled and rolled back several times and no matter which version of osx is installed it will still lock up when ever it connects wirelessly.
which brings me on to the intersting point, when booted into microsoft windows vista, this MBP will work absolutely fine with no lockups and 100% functionallity, infact the only limitation is windows it self.
Could it be that apple havent quite got their software right?
or are microsoft just better?
any feedback here would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
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