Vista with Creative Media Player keeps stoping during transfers to my Zen To

After my old computer crashed I purchased a new computer with Vista and like many others I went through the process of updating the firmware on my Zen Touch on another computer with XP and Windows MediaPlayer 0. I followed all the steps, including updating to the latest Creative Media OrginazerPlayer(5) and Play for Sure updates. Of course I lost all my music on the ZenTouch but I had my music saved on a external hard dri've. I loaded all the songs to my new computer and added them to the library for the Creative Media Player. Next step was to add them back to my Zen Touch. Becasue I had so many specialized playlists this process was going to take forever and would have to add songs one at a time. Everything was working great at first. I had no problems with Vista recoginizing everything and it all seem to function well. As I started to transfer songs to Zen Touch everything also went fine at first. Once I got through a few hundred songs the Media Player keeps stoping (atleast that's what the window that pops up says). I can sometimes go on later and transfer a few more songs but only a few and then it stops again and again and again. The ZenTouch is fully charged and being detected so the answers I've seen posted don't help. I've done so much to get everything to work and now this.... I running out of patience. I really don't want to start over or use the Windows Media Player if I don't have to since I've created so many playlists on the Creative Media program.Any suggestions out there on how to solve the problem of the constant stopage of the Creative Media Organizer when transfering songs to my Zen Touch Sorry for the long post- just wanted to cover the fact of what I've done already so there won't be any reiteration of suggestions.Message Edited by mattkaetzel on 0-03-20082: AM
Message Edited by mattkaetzel on 0-03-20082:2 AM

Older Creative HDD-based players with special drivers (PDE), such as the Jukebox Zen,?were not supported past Windows XP. [url="http://mrinternet.wordpress.com/2007/03/0/creative-zen-nx-and-vista-working-together-finally/" rel="nofollow">This site[/url]?(thanks coachop94) describes someone's effort to get PDE drivers to work in Vista; try at your own risk. If that doesn't work, you'll have to transfer your files off the Jukebox Zen using an older computer (XP or earlier).
Also, if you have MediaSource 5 you should also have installed the appropriate plug-in from the Jukebox Zen support page.

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If your update for Creative Media Source, Creative Media Player, and any associated programming has corrupted your system and you need to reinstall the older version or reinstall any of it period this information is critical to avoid serious frustration. It took me four days to figure this out fully and it was HARD to figure out with NO thanks to Creative Technical support. If anything Creative OWES me for this information since they are too stupid to answer my questions with anything but canned answers. It was posts on the Creative forum and several searches in Yahoo and Google that helped lead me to the conclusion of this issue and I feel that you as a Creative customer are not going to like this at all but hey, I?m just the messenger so please don?t kill me! Word of warning! Formatting your hard dri've and reinstalling all your software is far easier than what I am about to instruct you but what I figured out does work and seems to be the ONLY way of really fixing this bug. This applies to the Audigy Z 2S Platinum and should apply to ALL Creative Software in this line of Creative Products.
What caused this in the first place:
I was happily running the supplied creative Media Player, Media Source Go! software with THX, Dolby, and the other features that came with my Audigy Z 2S Platinum. As a conscientious computer user I like to keep things up to date and like to keep my software updated so I went to the Creative site and performed the automatic updates. BIG, BIG mistake! I lost the Equalizer, THX, the Mixer, and everything BUT the most basic of applications to this sound card. The point of me buying it in the first place was the features. The updates stripped me of them. When I tried to reinstall the original software the problems began. When using the supplied installation disk and attempting to uninstall the software was problem one. Creative never had the forethought of supplying an accurate uninstallation feature so when you use the ?Add/ Remove Program? feature you do not get the junk that Creative hides in your file system much like trying to extract AOL Files (which gave me the inspiration for getting rid of the corrupted installation of Creative Software). Like AOL software Creative is extremely invasi've and hides in a number of places you would not even think to look in.
The Issues you will be facing and the associated Error messages:
Upon reinstallation of the old software after my first of many attempts at removing the old installation I began to get the following error messages upon startup of the Media Source software, ?Exception-Created Object:Exceptions:FactoryNotFound Message:?Invalid Factory in Created Object: AudioChannelMappingMSG? and ?PFX file missing or corrupted, application will now terminate?, and the last of your nightmare messages ?Device not found by application and application will now terminate?. If you get any of these messages you are screwed and face a serious uninstallation procedure to correct this. Thanks to this you should be able to fix it all and get your reinstallation to take properly.
Something to keep in mind and I only found out about this the day before I wrote this, Apple Quicktime 7 has a serious conflict issue with DemoShield and the removal process is the same for the Creative Software since uninstallation will not get Quicktime out either. Before you reinstall remove Quicktime 7 or you are going NOWHERE! Quicktime 6 does not appear to interfere with the installation. You will get the error message ?DemoShield has encountered a problem and needs to shut down? followed by the computer wanting to send an error report. This is a sure fire sign that Quicktime is interfering with the installation along with the file DEMO32.exe which will need to be deleted.
Another thing I need to mention is that you WILL need the following software or something similar to eliminate all traces of Creative software, Error Expert, RegEditXP, Directory Cleaner, and Find Dead Links. This software will get the impossible and hidden stuff you will not find or be able to get rid of otherwise.
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Kick on some music, smoke a FAT joint, drink a beer, or do both because this process is involved and frustrating! If you don?t drink or smoke or both than I hope God is with you because you will be cursing and swearing when something does not go right. Remember, I was at this for four days FULL TIME with minimal information to go on. Patience is a MUST or be ready to pay an expert a LOT of money to deal with this.
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NOTE: Should at any time in this extraction process you get the message ?Application cannot be removed? or ?Another application is using file and it cannot be removed? hit CONTROL/ALT/DELETE to open the Task Manager. Click APPLICATIONS and if Creative software is running click END TASK. You can then continue the extraction process.
: TRY to save all of your important media files in another directory (preferably in another dri've or partition. Another dri've is preferred) before you begin this so you don?t loose your music and video files to an accident, misunderstanding, or software association. Making a special holding folder with an easily recognizable name not having Creative in its name will help keep you from accidentally deleting these files in the event the search turns them up.
2: Go to the ?Add Remove Programs? in the control panel and remove all instances of Creative you can find. When that is done go to Run\msconfig and select ?Selecti've Starup? and UNCHECK ?Load Startup Items?.
3: Restart the computer. Now the fun begins. Put on your hunting hat, you are on digital safari!
4: When the computer starts up you will be notified by msconfig that changes have been made to the way the computer starts. Hit the red X and close the message and do the same for msconfig. You will see the prompt ?restart computer? or ?close without restarting?, select ?close without restarting?.
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6: In Windows Explorer click ?View? and select ?Show hidden files? in the selection menu window. This will allow you to get the stuff that regular uninstallation can't get at nor will a regular search reveal. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT STEP DO NOT TRY TO WORK AROUND IT OTHERWISE YOU WILL FAIL EXTRACTING ALL THE JUNK!!!!!
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C:\Documentsandsettings\USRNAME\Applications\Creat ive
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C:\Programs\Windows\inf
C:\Programs\Windows\PIF
C:\Programs\Windows\prefetch
C:\Programs\Windows\Registration
C:\Programs\Windows\System
C:\Programs\Windows\System32
Lower down in the Explorer window you will find the following files that also need to be deleted:
C:\Programs\Windows\CTCCW.DLL
C:\Programs\Windows\CTDCRES.DLL
C:\Programs\Windows\CTDV0K.CDF
C:\Programs\Windows\CTDV0K2.CDF
C:\Programs\Windows\CTDVAUDY.CDF
C:\Programs\Windows\CTHELPER.EXE
C:\Programs\Windows\CTRegrun.exe
C:\Programs\Windows\CTRES.DLL
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9: This is where it begins to get complicated. In Windows Explorer you will be using the Search button.
Click Search and look for these files:
HKLM\Software\Creative Tech\Software Installed !!DELETE THIS FILE!!
Demo32.exe !!DELETE THIS FILE!!
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{5CDDF96A-BC34-4D72-9ABA-EFFF0C39977} !!DELETE THIS FILE!!
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IF YOU HAVE QUICKTIME 7 IT HAS TO BE REMOVED DUE TO A COMFLICT WITH CREATIVE INSTALLATION SOFTWARE!
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Windows Explorer Search found all the files I needed to remove but like Creative reference all the same folders in C:\Programs\Windows as you did for removing the Creative Software and remove all references of Quicktime you find;
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C:\Programs\Windows\inf
C:\Programs\Windows\PIF
C:\Programs\Windows\prefetch
C:\Programs\Windows\Registration
C:\Programs\Windows\System
C:\Programs\Windows\System32
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