VOB files: Missing footage that is on the DVD

Hi all,
I'm putting together a memorial film. The family gave me all their home movies that have been put on DVDs. I'm using MPEG streamclip to convert the VOB files to DV files that I can import and edit in iMovie (or FCP).
Here's my problem: The VOB files are missing footage that I can absolutely see when I play the DVD. I've tried exporting the files to AVI and .mov files but the result is the same.
Can someone help me figure out how to access that missing footage? It's very strange.
Thanks!

You need to convert the VOB files in the TS-Folder of the DVD back to DV which iMovie is designed to handle. For that you need mpegStreamclip:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/mpegstreamclip.html
which is free, but you must also have the Apple mpeg2 plugin :
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mpeg2/
which is a mere $20.
Another possibility is to use DVDxDV:
http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/Products/DVDxDV.overview.htm
which costs $25.
For the benefit of others who may read this thread:
Obviously the foregoing only applies to DVDs you have made yourself, or other home-made DVDs that have been given to you. It will NOT work on copy-protected commercial DVDs, which in any case would be illegal.

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Can someone help me figure out how to access that missing footage? It's very strange.
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