Voice over always on - How can I shut if off?

somehow, voiceover has decided to turn itself, and I can't shut it off....
Disabling voice over in the universal access system preference does not shut it off.
Deleting the user's universal access preference plist as well as voice over's preference plist does not shut it off
Rebooting does not shut it off.
Zapping the PRAM does not shut it off.
How do I stop voiceover from activating itself? It's driving me nuts!
Thanks in advance

command f5 only works until I log in/out or reboot...
When the computer boots up, it does not automatically log in. So, at the the login window on a fresh reboot, voice over has activated itself. Command f5 will shut it off, and when I log into either user account (there are 2 accounts on the machine) voice over is not active. However, as soon as I log out and return to the log in screen, voice over has re-activated itself.
If I reboot from an account (when voice over is not active), then it will be active after the computer boots and while it waits at the login screen...
Thanks!

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