VoiceOver, supports tagged PDFs?

I just tried out my iPad with VoiceOver and the new Adobe Reader for iOS v 10.5.0. It reads out loud the text of a PDF nicely.
Subsequently I tested a PDF, created with InDesign CS5, with portions of the text tagged so that the text should not read out loud. In the Adobe Reader for Windows the tagged text is skipped and not read out loud. In the new Adobe Reader for iOS, the tagged text and all text is read out loud.
I would like to use InDesign to tag my PDFs so that portions of the text do not read out loud using the Adobe Reader for iOS. Is this possible? How should I proceed. Thank you. - Bill

Hi Bill,
Accessibility support we provided in this 10.5 version of Adobe Reader is just a small step towards making it accessible on Mobile platform. There is a lot that needs to be added.
Thanks for your valuable feedback on this feature. We have added this in our backlog items.
-Charu

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