VPRS condition type in Third party sales

Hi
We have the following scenario for 3rd party sales:
1. SO is created which generates a PR
2. PO is created. Example below
Base price - 100
Freight - 10
Insurance - 10
3. GR is done with below a/c entry
COGS Dr 120
Clearing Cr 120
4. IR is done (Regular a/c entry)
4. Billing - At the time of billing, i expect that system should pass 120 to VPRS value field in COPA (100+10+10 from PO), however, it is only passing 100 (Base price from PO). Any adivse how to fix this
Thanks in advance
Shiv

Hi,
Also, go through the below customized settings for cost + other value to be updated in the VPRs
condition type.
In Pricing, you may want to compare the prices with costs or even implement contribution margin accounting.
To do this, you can use the condition type VPRS as the cost price.
The condition type VPRS goes into the valuation segment in the material master and determines from this the standard price or average price.
Settings in Customizing
The condition type VPRS is labeled as a statistical condition in the pricing procedure.
Using the condition category G, the condition type VPRS goes into the valuation segment of the material master and determines from here the standard or average price.
The condition category S always accesses the standard price whereas condition category T always accesses the average price.
The profit margin is determined using the calculation formula 11 assigned in the pricing procedure. In this calculation formula the cost price is subtracted from the subtotal of net value 2.
Regards
Srinivas Salpala

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Diff. types of Third Party Sales?

Hi All,
what r different types of Third party Sales?
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Correct me if i am wrong.
Reg,
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Hi,
There are two types of 3rd party sales
1) Vendor drop shipment (Vendor will directly deliver the stock to the customer)
In this scenario no GR will be done
2) 3rd party sales via individual purchase order (Which is creation of PO and receive the stock from the vendor which in turn deliver the stock to the customer )
In this scenario GR will be done
Thank you,
Ram
Edited by: Ram 1979 on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM

How can i get different Condition Type for third-party Purchase Order?

Hi, experts,
for standard PO my Schema works well. now I want to get a different condition type for third-party purchase order. I try to extend field catalog (Pricing Purchasing). The Field PSTYP exists already. However, it is not provided in the field catalog.
How could i do?
Thanks
Rene

Hi Rene,
If you are seeing fields in the field catalog but are not seeing this field when creating the condition table then the field probably does not exist in the KOMG structure for allowed fields for condition structures. KOMG represents the total of KOMK and KOMP which are the pricing communication structures. If your field is not there then you need to append it to item data in INCLUDE KOMPAZ in KOMP since this is an item level field. If it were a header level field you would append it to include KOMKAZ in KOMK. The inclusion of new fields in KOMK or KOMP automatically means that they are also included in KOMG.
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Movement type in third party order

dear expert
pls tell me what is the movement type is used in third party order.
from
vicky

There would be no movement type for third party sales if the vendor is sending the material directly to the customer.
If you think logically the movement type is "the actual movement of goods" that is mapped in sap when we do the PGI.
Since we are not doing any delivery in the case of above explained(i.e. material from Vendor --> Customer ),there would be no chance to think about movement type.
So if you check the standard schedule line category CS in VOV6, you cant find any movement type assigned to it(fact is thats not at all required in this case).
There is also one more case in third party sales where vendor sends material directly to the company, in this case its company's responsibility to send that material to the customer(i.e.Material from Company-->Customer).
Here company will be doing delivery and PGI(actual movement of goods starts here) and they will invoice to the customer is well.
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Third party sales order type

Dear Guru's,
I am configuring third party for the first time.
Gone through the search.
The order type NB is missing in my standard list of sales documents. Item cat TAS & sch line cat CS is there.
Pl suggest how do I go ahead to complete configuration?
Thanks & Regards,
santosh.

Hi
You can use Or or copy OR and can name as ZOR and use for third party
Third party sales is controlled by item category and schedule line category settings
So any order type you can take in VOV8
In MMR the third party item category group is defined as BANS
For this BANS with any order type we maintain default item category determination as TAS in VOV4
In VOV7 we define controls for TAS mainly billing relevance as F and automatic PO ticked
In VOV5 for this TAS and MRP type of the item as per MMR we define schedule line category as CS
In VOV5 we define controls for schedule line category CS
Main settings
1. order type NB (the po type to be triggered)
2.Item category as 5 (third party)
3.Account assignment category as X
These controls whole process
In MMR also purchasing view automatic PO check box to be ticked
If you ensure these settings then when you save a sales order with order type OR or any others a Automatic PO will be created
Regards
Raja

Third Party Sale- Move ment type

Hii,
In third party sale, when e do MIGO what is the movement type we should take. (in case of individual purchase order scenario we take Mov type as 101, where actually we are taking goods into our stock and then delivering it to our customer) but in Third party vendor directly supplies to customer. But he sends an acknowledgement to the company and we do MIGO & MIRO and then directly raise an invoice with ref to order but quantity as per delivery ( billing rev -F). So my doubt is wat movement type we should be taking for thirdparty sale when we do MIGO. (this is only for reference, actually there is inward movement of goods into our stock as the vendor supplies it directly to customer).
Thanks

Dear Venkat Rao,
A small search on SDN SD forum will help you to answer your query.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/e6/4a78e39e0311d189b70000e829fbbd/content.htm
THIRD PARTY SALES
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm
http://www.sap.com/services/pdf/BWP_SAP_Best_Practices_for_Wholesale_Distribution.pdf
3rd party biling
http://www50.sap.com/businessmaps/65045A20075E4CFD89DB030BC1C556AD.htm
http://www.saptechies.com/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales/
Hope this helps you.
Do award points if you found them useful.
Regards,
Rakesh

How to configure a new third party sales document type?

Hi SAP SD gurus,
I am new to the SAP world, I need your help in configuring a new third party sales document type for a site.
There are existing third party document types being used in the region, but the client wants an entirely new third party document type that is activated for CREDIT MANAGEMENT.
I just need your inputs, as how to go about it. If I copy from an existing third party sales doc. What additional steps do I need to follow? Like Item category config, copy control settings, and credit management.
Is there a need to create new billing types?
Also as per process, by creating a new document type, how will it affect the logistic processes, if any?
Thanks a lot in advance for your valuable inputs.

Hello,
You can create new document type under following customization path
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Define Sales Document Types
Now create new document type by copying the standard document type OR
Now go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Define Item Categories
which is already defined for third party sales (TAS)
Now assign this iteme category to your new document type
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Assign Item Categories
Assignment needs to be done in combination of sales document type and item category group (BANS)
Now
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Schedule Lines
Assignment of schedule line is already done as you are using the standard one.
Lastly, you may need to maintain copy control for your newly created sales document type for this go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Maintain Copy Control for Sales Documents
(Copying Control: Sales Document to Sales Document)
Here you can define copy control requirements.
BR,
Tushar

Cost value for third party sales order scenario

Greetings, I have a cost question involving the Third Party Sales Order (Item category TAS).
At billing (VF01), the cost being picked up by the system are the value from the PO (PBXX condition type). I would like the system to pick up the entire COGS value (inclusive of freight values) posted at MIGO.
Ex. If Purchase price is 100 and freight is 20, I want 120 (the COGS value) to be shown in the cost field. It currently shows 100.
The steps I follow are
1) Create OR sales order (item category TAS)
2) Create PO referencing PR
3) Goods Receipt D 120 COGS/ C 100 GRIR /C 20 freight
4) Outbound Delivery (Confirmation only)
5) Billing (Costs showing 100?!)
Again, only the PBXX condition type value (From MM Calculation Schema) is being picked up.
How can I get the system to pick up the freight value as well?
Regards
Ken

Hi,
If you bring the Freight condition after PBXX and include in the net value, your problem will be solved. so it will be 120 in MIGO, MIRO, Dellivery and VPRS in billing.
We have the same situation and its working fine for us.
Thanks
Krishna.

VPRS condition not floating in to sales order...

Good evening every body...
My query is VPRS condition not floating in to sales order...
Please give your valuable inputs
I checked Pricing procedure analysis
giving error requirement 004 not fulfilled
Note:
I checked determine cost in Item category (TAN)
VPRS condition in my pricing procedure
I maintained Standard price in Accounting1 tab of MMR
Valuation class I maintained in MMR
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Anything I missed out???
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Krishna

In my view, the information provided by you is not sufficient to provide you an exact solution.
As based on & differs business scenario to business scenario you are following.
Like whether it is BOM, MTO/MTS, Free Goods, batches, third party sales, Order-related billing or Delivery-related billing:...
Business Process
Source of costing
- Order-related billing
Valuation price of the material master
- Delivery-related billing
Goods issue
Further there are various way to carry out costing at Sales order, like
- Product costing
- Unit costing
So, you can check whether EK01/EK02 or any other cost related is executing prior/take preference to VPRS in your pricing
Also. kindly check your entries for Account Determination for valuation area(T001K) by using TCode OMWD.
If everything is fine, then test run a Sales cycle till Billing, so as to see whether at billing VPRS is reflecting or not.
If in case you need further assistance, do let us know.
Regards
JP

Third party sales revenue getting posted to Profit Center valuation in COPA

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We have activate profit center valuation for our operating concern.
During normal OTC cycle (third party sales), all the data is flowing correctly in legal view for the COPA document
In profit center valuation, only revenue is flowing and no other values like discounts, standard costs are flowing to Profit center valuation view
My question why only revenue is flowing and not any other values. Is this way system should behave
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Capture cost of procured materials in a third party sales order scenario

Dear Experts,
I'm developing a third party sales order solution to my company following the recommended third party scenario by SAP.
Everything is working fine from creation of sales order, automatic creation of purchase requisition, create purchase order using the purchase requisition ect...
The problem I have is the in the Sales order, the cost of the material is not getting captured correctly. The condition maintained in the sales order is VPRS and it is deriving the material cost from the material master record. Ideally it should be deriving the material cost from the invoiced value or else from the purchase order(which is the actual amount we are spending to buy the items). Deriving the cost from material master depicts an incorrect profit in the sales order.
Can someone please advice me how to derive the cost(to be shown in the sales order under VPRS condition)from the invoice or the purchase requisition and Not from the material master.
I'll be grateful if you can describe in a step by step proceedure.
Thanks in advance

Hi Lakshmipathi
Thanks alot for your response.
As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
But during Billing, it does NOT get updated to reflect the purchase order price. If that happens, then its perfect.
I did a complete testing cycle and the material master price remains unchanged throught the process upto billing.
Is there any special parameter that I should maintain in VPRS condition for this to happen?
Anyway thanks again for ur reply, appreciate it alot. Let me know your views on this.
As u advise I'll post it on the sales forum as well.
Regards,
Randika

Third party sales order report

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I got to prepare a report and the description is as follows:
"Report for discount pricing conditions manually entered in third party sales orders."
"Discount price reporting for manual pricing conditions in sales order processing (not in billing)"
"The report should reflect manual pricing discounts captured in the third party sales order.The relevant (third party) document types will be confirmed.Currently we have the following pricing condition type used for manual discount: YRD2- Manual Distr. Discount % YRD3- Manual Distr. Discount fixedThis report will facilitate the monitoring on the discounts given to the distributors.We still need to confirm the complete list of discount pricing conditions for the report.The report should extract the manual discount information based on the following criteria:Sales organization, period, sales order, customer (wholesaler and/or third party) and pricing condition type.Summing per sales order, customer, period should be enabled.The discounts should be displayed in document (sales order) currency. "
I didnt understand the following to get the purpose of this report:
1. what is this third party sales order ?
2. What is manual pricing condition?
3. what is manual pricing condition? how many types of conditions are there like this?
4. What is the actual analysis that can be made from the output of this report?
Please explain them in detail. Thank you.

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
Regards.

Third Party Sales Order in COPA - adjusted cost

We have a third party sales order which creates the Preq and then the pruchase order. We have statistical conditions on the purchase order. We have switched the billing relavency on the item category TAS to a B to allow billing before the invoice recipt from the oversees vendor. Billing block is on the order until inbound delivery is updated.
A purchase order is created with statistical conditions for an accrual amount (palletization charge). When the goods receipt is performed against an inbound delivery and the billing block is removed, a customer invoice is created and the correct value, cost plus the accrual amount, posts into the customer billing document vprs condition and posts accordingly to co-pa.
The issue is that when the invoice receipt is performed against the purchase order, the normal FI document is created against the vendor and gr/ir account. However, at this time an adjustment to the vprs is posted against the original billing document vprs condition for the statistical condition on the purchase order. This adjustment to the vprs condition then creates a copa document which reduces the cost of goods sold value field.
Any ideas on how to prevent this adjustment to the co-pa cogs value?

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
Kapil

Process Required for Third party sales

Hi Guru ji's ,
Pls let me know the step by step procedure for Third party sales processing.
on the below conditions.
1] Sales order to be created automatically based on the Bapi .
2] Based on the Sales order, automatic Purchase order and Gr must happen.
3] Automatic invoices must also be created automatically.
Can any one explain us what is to be done under the above said conditions,
Best Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Saini.

Hi
Please find enclosed the details on third party.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
      Goto Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
      Key in the PR number
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
Third party Return Process
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Hope it will help you

Third party sales and individual purchase order MIGO DIFFERENCE?

Hi experts,
any difference between third party sales and individual purchase orders goods receipt(MIGO). What's the stock levels chages after goods receipt in both cases? How the system knows that its third party migo and individual purchase order MIGO? Can anybody clarify my question?
regards,
raju

Hi
In third party you will not be able to create automatic PO
The schedule line category CS settings in VOV6 order type NB, MM item category 5 and account assignment category settings as X and in VOV7 for TAS create automatic PO ticked will ensure PR creation only and not PO
As suggested by the other friend you need to run t code ME59N or ME59 for automatic PO creation but certain condition to be met
1) In the Purchasing View of the material master data, the "Autom. PO" field must be clicked;
2) In the Purchasing View of the Vendor Master Data, the "Automatic Purchase Order" field must be clicked;
3) The Outline Agreement or Purchasing Info Record shall be maintained which will allow the automatic copying of unit price and other conditions into PO;
4) The Source List shall be maintained for the nominated vendor which was shown in either the Outline Agreement or Purchasing Info Record.
You have to run ME59N transaction manually or schedule this as a background job
Regards
Raja

VPRS condition type in Third party sales

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