W510 SSD - My Story

Here's my story:  I've had my W510 for 4 years without problems of any kind.  However, recently bootup times started to be around 4 minutes.  So I decided to get an SSD and put that in to see if performance increased.  I bought a couple of 240 GB HP v300a drives on sale.  They are SATA III drives, with Sandforce 2281 controllers.  I made a disk image using Acronis, then printed that on the SSD and installed it.  It booted up fine, in a fraction of the time, and all was good for several weeks.  Then a very interesting problem popped up.  The only game I play on the W510 is World of Warcraft.  From time to time, the game would completely freeze.  The whole system would lock up, and I would have to press the power button and do a manual cold boot.  The freezing problem was intermittent, and seemed to happen at times when the game was particularly graphics intensive.  Sometimes it would go away for days, only to come back.  Weirdness!  I thought it was the fault of WoW--but when the system froze using Creative Suite 5.5, I put the original HDD back in.  Now I'm back to where I was.  No freezing.  Everything works fine, if sluggish and boot times are 4 minutes.  
I want to install an SSD in this machine.  I know I can get 4 more years of life out of it if I do.  Perhaps the HP drive isn't as compatible with the W510 as some other brand.  I welcome recommendations.  If I neglected to do something in BIOS, perhaps someone could counsel me.   The HP SSD itself may be defective--I have not tried it in another system.  However, the identical disk went into my Dell laptop and there have been absolutely no problems, and that was a far older system than my W510.  The HP disks were really a stab in the dark.  If someone can direct me to a disk that will work with a disk image (I don't own a full version of Windows 7, just upgrades)--but I do have the Lenovo recovery disks.  Thanks in advance for any counsel you may offer.
Best regards, Mike
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name MICHAEL-THINK
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 4318CTO
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz, 1600 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO 6NET84WW (1.45 ), 10/3/2012
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
User Name Michael-THINK\Michael
Time Zone Pacific Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.93 GB
Available Physical Memory 4.16 GB
Total Virtual Memory 15.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 11.9 GB
Page File Space 7.93 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
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Hi,
@Hackermc:
As far as I can see the only model that is supported on http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=​ThinkPad%20W510%20Series is the M500 (not M4!) with 240GB, not 480 GB?!
Crucial M500 240GB 2.5-inch Internal SSD
Or is this incorrect?
I will looking forward of your results with the 480 GB version of the M500.
@ George
You said the M4 512 is running well with the W510.
Which Chipset does your W510 have: Intel 6 or 7 series. And which CPU?
I think, this will make a big difference.
My dealer is able to get the M4/512 GB, which is more than sufficient for the W510 Sata II.
I got around 260 MB/s with the Samsung SSD on the W510 (when it had a 5 minutes of good time).
This ist the maximum write speed for dem M4, so it fits perfectly.
Greets
Axel

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    SSD firmware update to latest 400i.
    please help.
    should i call thinkpad service hotline? It's still under on-site warranty.
    seems like a compactibility issue.

    Welcome to Lenovo Community! Terryhoho
    Go to Control Panel > Lenovo - Airbag Protection > Uncheck Enable Active Protection System. (Check only when you are using HDD and not SSD) SSD does not require Active Protection System as it does not contain mechanical parts.
    http://www.jdhodges.com/blog/tip-shock-protection-unnecessary-if-you-have-a-ssd/
    If the step above does not resolve your issue.
    1. What source do you use to reformat? Windows 7 Original DVD (Clean Install), Lenovo Recovery Disk or others?
    2. If you install using Windows 7 Original DVD, download and install System Update. (If Recovery Disk, can skip this step as it's preinstalled in the image)
    3. Download and install the latest Intel Chipset driver.
    4. Go to Control Panel > Lenovo - Update and drivers > Install Critical and Recommended Updates, up to you for optional updates.
    Peter  
    W520 (4284-A99)
    Give kudos to reward people for their assistance | Mark the thread solved if the solution works | Direct e-mail regarding technical problems will be ignored
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