W520 IEEE 1394 device missing

W520 4270-CTO
W7 Pro
The IEEE 1394 device is now completely missing from device manager. It seems like hardware failure but I thought I would post here to see if anyone has any suggestions. BIOS reset and factory restore did not resolve the matter.
I have contacted a local service depot so the machine will go in for warranty service next week (after labour day weekend) if not resolved beforehand.
Ted
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Problem sorted out.
The IEEE 1394 drive by Ricoh will shut down the port and the card reader (both Ricoh) when nothing is connected to either. Inserting a memory card or connecting a firewire device will wakeup both the IEEE 1394 port and the card reader.
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I concur with Brad that your issue is surely the famous Microsoft issue whereby XP SP2 and SP3 downgraded potential throughput to S100, requiring either rollback to the SP1 1394 driver from Microsoft, or upgrade to Win7 where they finally fixed the problem.
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I agree with Neale. One consideration is the number of controller chips you have on either the MoBo connections, or your card.
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