W530 GPU throttling issue

Hello everyone!
I have W530 and I am very happy with it. But I have a small problem w GPU throtling. It appears in FurMark on AC power, with Lenovo TurboBoost+ activated, stock lenovo drivers and Windows 7 x64 PRO. FurMark says 'core 745 MHz (THROTTLING: -340 MHz)', but the temperature is only 53 degrees. I tried to upgrade drivers from NViDIA site, but it only made worse (THROTTLING: -675 MHz). Any ideas?
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Hi Magnum44pl
If I am not wrong, educated guess based on your temperature. Your power plan appears to limit the full power of the system. How about go to Power Manager > Switch to Maximum Performance?
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