W530 UltraBay Caddy

Hi,
I have removed the DVD from the Ultra Bay & installed a 2nd Hard Drive for extra storage etc.
Every so often, & more often than not, it ejects itself. The only method to get it back is to close lid into standby mode & open again.
Sometimes it happens on resume from standby as well..?
Any ideas on what can be causing this? I had a W510 before & it did similar things. I have also spokne to someone else who had the same type of issues.
I think on the W510 (win7), it used to ask to be ejected, whereas on this W530 (win8) it ejects it on its own...
Maybe there is a setting to say never eject...?

Scott,
im having a different error than you but perhaps the the fix i tried for mine (that didnt work) will work for you.
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/W520-Ultrabay-HDD-ejects-or-dismounts-on-sleep...

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> Assuming that you are using the UltraBay 12.7mm Lenovo adapter, you must use both the drive tray AND the rubber rails to secure the HDD within the unit.
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That one, part number 43N3412, is about 9mm thick. It will work in the T430 but there will be a small gap at the top of the drive bay.
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I have a 1GB HDD in the Ultrabay and I have a problem that is bothering me a lot:
The HDD unmount every 24 to 48 hours and the only way to get it back is restarting the machine.
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I have a T420 and T410s and behaves the same in both.
Someone here has had the same experience?

Hi winteum
Sorry for the late reply. What hard drive are you using for your Ultrabay?
1. Is your Ultrabay drive loosen? (Some are 9.5mm, some are 12.5mm or thinner)
2. Download the manufacturer tools for your Ultrabay Hard Drive and scan. (e.g. Seagate provides SeaTool). Either the ultrabay caddy or the hard drive is failing.
3. For your Seagate GoFlex with 0B Calibration retry, it seems like your portable hard drive is failing. If it's still under warranty, you can download and run SeaTool, get authorization code for one for one exchange.
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Yes, both are SATA3.
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Since I rarely use my optical drive and frequently back up files to an external hard drive, I'd like to put a HDD in the optical bay and just swap it out for the DVD player whenever that is needed.
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Will I need the rubber 'bumpers' or is that just for SSD drives? If I need them, do they come with the caddy or drive? If not, what do I get and where?
Does either the Seagate or Western Digital offer an advantage in function or reliability?
Please correct anything that I've mistated or misunderstood. Thank you for your advice and recommendations.
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How the four screws work.
HD's and SSD's usually have four threaded holes on the bottom and also two threaded holes on each long side. The video you may have seen with the screws going through holes in the bottom of the caddy into the threaded bottom holes of the HD is a video of the $45 Newmodus caddy. That's how they affix the drive to the caddy.
The Chinese caddy I linked uses the screws in a different way, and it is actually pictured in the top right illustration on the caddy.
While the drive is out of the caddy, you just thread the screws (through nothing) into the side holes on the drives. So, the drive now has two little protruding screw heads on each side. The only purpose is to create those four slight protrusions - two on each side.
Then you insert the drive into the caddy by sliding from one end. The thing on the bottom of the caddy picture is like a little door that folds up and down. You lift up the door and slide the drive into the other end. The protruding screw heads slide under little rail protuberances that are molded inside the sides of the caddy. When you have slid the drive all the way forward into the electrical connectors, you then snap down the door behind it. The door prevents the drive from moving forward or back. The screw heads wedged under the rails prevent the drive from moving up or down. You can do the entire operation in 5 seconds.
Ny-compu-tek seems to have the same caddy listed under various titles and prices, including one that specifically says T530. I think that's just a marketing gimmick, as the T530 takes the same caddy as the T520. Anyway the one I linked is the least expensive from that source and fits perfectly.
It was also shipped out in one day with a tracking number.

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Hi all,
I'm new here so let me thank you all because I've found many answers regarding T61 on these pages. Your knowledge was of great help to me.
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So, I've formatted it in my PC, tested it (wrote files, read files, played files from it), and then put it back in ultrabay.
It's than recognized as a disk, I can open folder that I have copied from my PC, but when I try to read or write a bigger file it locks up again.
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Hi,
I was wondering, what exactly is the speed of T61 ultrabay PATA controller?
On the other hand, my T61 has two free mini PCIe slots (one just right to WLAN card and another bellow CPU)
Would a mini PCIe to SATA converter/adapter be enough? Like this one:
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or do I need a mini PCIe to SATA controller? Like this one:
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