Waiting for the Lion link!

I've been waiting for Apple to send me the link to download Lion.
I paid for it two weeks ago and they sent me the verification codes and instructions the same day.
They aren't shipping a disc, they are emailing a link to download the software.
I was told by an Apple.com rep that the link would be emailed to me within three to four weeks of my order.
Now, here is my question...
WHY DOES IT TAKE FOUR WEEKS TO GET THE LINK? REALLY. WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOUR WEEKS FOR A LINK TO A DOWNLOAD?

@babowa...
Do you even read the whole message?
I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone in the forums with my "all caps". Emails and online posts don't carry the audible inflection that the human voice carries, so take it with a grain of salt.
(Asking me why I was "screaming" probably would have nipped this "discussion" in the bud, so taking it personally was a much better approach. That way we can go back and forth arguing over semantics.)
Typed messages can be too easily misinterpreted due to the lack of sound. You can't hear the inflection or the desperation in my voice, so it's natural to assume it's anger directed at you. But, I'm telling you, it isn't. I don't know how many times you want me to say it... It wasn't directed at you or anyone on here. After all, I don't know you or anyone else on the forum. (oops... are italics offensive?)
This was a yell of frustration, not anger. Why are you hung up on that? There is a major difference between angry shouting directed at individuals and shouting in frustration in general. If expressing my discontent in an online post is offensive, then be glad you have the freedom to be offended. I didn't curse, I didn't slander anyone and I didn't threaten anyone. I merely intensified the font to show my state of frustration. But, since you got offended, and this is your world and not mine, I apologize to you and anyone else I might have offended with my capital letters.
By the way, I already talked to Apple. (Remember, I mentioned that in both posts). Again, this was an attempt to find out if anyone (tempted to use caps here, but didn't want to offend you) knew any way around this. That's it. That's all.
It was a post to see if anyone had any insight into getting the product within a reasonable amount of time. (ie. asking for a disc, contacting a different department, ordering from another site... anything. It IS possible that someone on here... someone you don't know about... might have an answer for me.)
And, if nobody had any insight, nobody had to post anything. Right?
Now, leave me alone.

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Yes, I checked the email address. I've been waiting since 4pm
local time, it's now nearly 9pm.

It's OK now. I waited 12 hours and went through the whole
rigmarole again.
Got the email within a few minutes this time.

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Great article by HuffPost Tech.
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Please wait for the group policy client - shutting down issues

Hi
I have issues with shutting down machines. When machine is connected to company's LAN everything works fine. However, if machine is connected to VPN - Juniper NC - 1 hour or more it always hangs when it is shutting down. When I shut down the machine
(verbose mode on), first stage is:
Please wait for the system Event Notification service.
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after 3 minutes. Next stage:
Please wait for the group policy client windows 7
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GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Entering with event 0xe58
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Canceling pending calls
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 Client_CompleteNotificationCall: failed with 0x71a
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Cancelled pending calls
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Exiting with dwStatus = 0x0
GPSVC(438.1a04) 21:31:24:327 Waiting for user group policy thread to terminate.
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Entering with event 0xe10
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Canceling pending calls
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GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 Client_CompleteNotificationCall: failed with 0x71a
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Cancelled pending calls
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GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(2d4.9c8) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::OnNotificationTriggered: Completenotification failed with 1317
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Entering with event 0xd90
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:327 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(2d4.1cfc) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Exiting with dwStatus = 0x0
GPSVC(218.d48) 21:31:24:342 Client_CompleteNotificationCall: failed with 0x525
GPSVC(218.d48) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::OnNotificationTriggered: Completenotification failed with 1317
GPSVC(218.1c04) 21:31:24:327 Client_CompleteNotificationCall: failed with 0x525
GPSVC(218.1c04) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::OnNotificationTriggered: Completenotification failed with 1317
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Exiting with dwStatus = 0x0
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Entering with event 0x2100
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Exiting with dwStatus = 0x0
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Entering with event 0x1264
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::AbortAsyncRegistration: No asyn registration is pending
GPSVC(218.1054) 21:31:24:342 CGPNotify::UnregisterNotification: Exiting with dwStatus = 0x0
I tried with signing out from VPN before shutting down machine, I even switched off WiFi but machine still hung. If i tried to get GP results before shutting down machine it takes ages and it is stuck in "Getting the user name" stage.
Gpupdate /force never updates policy (It stops at Updating Policy...). I tired with installing different hotfixes which did not resolve the issue. I never have any
issues with logging in, no GP scripts are applied when user is logging off or on, no roaming profiles. The only issue is when machine needs to be shut down.
I excluded 1 machine from GP and left it on VPN for a few hours, several times. It always shuts down successfully. I applied GP back one by one and the one which is presumably causing an issue is Avecto which adds admin rights when VPN application
starts (event 100):
Process started with admin rights added to token.
Command Line: "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Juniper Networks\Setup Client\JuniperSetupClient.exe"
Process Id: 5540
Parent Process Id: 2252
Policy: EA-PrivilegeGuardSettings.UK Policy
Application Group: EA-PrivilegeGuardSettings.Applications Granted Admin Rights
Reason: <None>
File Name: c:\users\User\appdata\roaming\juniper networks\setup client\junipersetupclient.exe
Hash: 27D8463A913A802E555AEEF45717B122249AA993
Certificate: Juniper Networks, Inc.
Description: Juniper Setup Client
Application Type: exe
Product Name: Juniper Setup Client
Product Code: <None>
Upgrade Code: <None>
Product Version: 8.0.6.48695
I guess there is a DNS issues when machine is on VPN which leads that GP cannot be applied / updated. Not sure if or why Avecto would have an impact on this. When machine is trying to shut down it still somehow thinks it is connected to DC. What
I also noticed are several explorer crashes while machine is on VPN.
Does anyone have same issues? All machines are Dell with Juniper NC (VPN).
Thanks,

Hi,
According to event log, Winlogon process takes a long time to handle logoff event. That's to say winlogon process is waiting for response to logoff.
According to your description after, this problem is most probably caused by Avecto. You can try to disable or uninstall it temporarily for test.
To make further troubleshoot with this problem, you can try to use WPT (Windows Performance Tool) to make troubleshoot.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfeplat/archive/2013/03/22/troubleshooting-windows-performance-issues-using-the-windows-performance-recorder.aspx
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Windows 7 very slow logon, Waiting for the User Profile Service, winlogon event 6006

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Every so often one of our Windows 7 clients which is not normally having any delay at logon will take a very long time to login. This may be 10 or 20 minutes or up to an hour in some cases.
Typically the event log will contain entries like
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When did the issue begin to occur? Did it occur after installing certain application or applying certain policy?
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I have two hard drives on my mac 10.5.8 power pc and hear the clickking sounds of the first hard drive and think that it may be dying, can I install everything on the other hard drive also and wait for the first drive to die before i use the other drives? Or, what is the best way to handle this?

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