Waiting orcle developer forms runtime web ... long

dear sir
i install oracle app11i complete. when i use oracle . i login with user sysadmin.
and choose some menu. it will load jinit 1.3.1.21. and install complete. i close web browser and login again. i choose same menu . it will load orcle developer forms runtime web. and show don't close this page .
at address show -> http://app11.workgroup:8000/dev60cgi/ifcgi60.exe?lookAndFeel=ORACLE&colorScheme=BLAF&lang=US&env=NLS_LANG='AMERICAN_AMERICA.UTF8'+FORMS60_USER_DATE_FORMAT='DD-MON-RRRR'+FORMS60_USER_DATETIME_FORMAT='DD-MON-RRRR%20HH24%3AMI%3ASS'+NLS_DATE_LANGUAGE='AMERICAN'+NLS_SORT='BINARY'+NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS='.,'&form_params=+config='app'+icx_ticket='.688897717'+resp='FND%2FAPPLICATION_DEVELOPER'+secgrp='STANDARD'+start_func='FND_FNDFFIIF'&encoding=UTF-8
it will open java web name "orcle developer forms runtime web ". i waiting so long time. please help me or introduce me.
my configuration
p 4 630
ram 768 mb
hdd sata 160 gb
os win2000 server sp4
j2sdk1.4.2_11
use cygwin instead mks
thank you

Hi,
Try to clean up your browser's cache (msie: tools > options > ...) and oracle jinitiator's jcache directory (c:\proghram files\oracle\jinit ... ). Close your browser and try again.
Regards,
catalin ciontu.

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But there are big advantages. First at all the users have the whole Windows functionality in a WEB apllication
- mouse clicks, tabs, multiwindows, the advanced Oracle Forms access to the Oracle DB. This is not the
limited WEB page application, slow, stupid (from DB view of point of course). Also I would like to say
that I succeed to make the application very fast and easy. My colleagues who make WEB apps using HTML
and Java need as rule 5-6 men team to do the same. Of course it was not easy to learn how to deal with
Forms Server and with Reports Server. So Forms really is a RAD.
As Mr. Alexander said Forms of the WEB are used in the so called "Back Office" implementations - for
supporting the infrastructure of big enterprises. They are not approprite for random user access - the
overhead is to big.
The next advantage of Forms on the WEB is that you escape the Forms Client instalation on every user
station. You avoid to declare a remote directory with .fmx, to share the username/password/host with
user. The only thing you do is to publish the URL. This is a big advantage.
About the overhead. In "old" environment (DB listener, Forms Server in the Forms Toolkit) the application
really runs slow 9at the beginning of the sesion). But I sow apps based on iOAS9i and the integrated
there Forms Server. They were fantastic fast (the overhead was 5 secs in comparison with the 40 secs
on my computer).
I think that Oracle is doing the best to improve the functionality of Forms server. So now there are
some disadvanteges of this technology, but I optimistically hope that in the next version there will
be enhancements.
Maur?cio Pacheco ([email protected])
Joseph is right and I would like to add
two things :
- Although there is some overhead in starting
Forms Server (let's say 20-40 seconds) the
usage is much faster than any HTML
application. Try to create in ASP a dynamic
page to query a table in tabular form with
page navigation (one of many examples).
While Forms needs 2 network packets, HTML
needs 15 (obvious because the data we see
is only a small part of the page, the rest
are tags, formatting information, scripts,
etc). This comparison was made with the
same table, showing the same columns and
with the same records/page. WEB Forms seems
slow but in fact is faster than HTML
because the GUI frame runs on the client.
- In one occasion there was an international
competition to create a WEB application
for product catalog (reports, queries,
maintenances, drawings, etc). While with
Forms we took 1 week (1 developer) the
fastest competitor took 3+ months (3
developers)! And worst, the user
functionality regarding complex queries and
reporting was far better in Forms than
the competitor's tool (I am not going to
give names). Perhaps this was a matter of
training but Forms is really fast to
develop database applications. If
productivity, simplicity, database
performance, data integrity and user
functionality is not important don't use
Forms.
Once more, Forms was not projected for public
sites where multimedia content and
presentation is required. It was projected
for authenticated database applications,
to handle and present data and to reduce
development and maintenance time.
Now I hope you have enough knowledge to begin to embed your forms on the WEB. It is easy, but you have
to obtain some new knowledge.
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thanks joseph. will try it and let you know at the earliest.
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Forms runtime executable ifrun90.exe

I am running Oracle forms 9i on windows 2000.
I can deploy the forms on a browser
I want to be able to run the form under windows.
Document says to use the executable IFRUN90.EXE
I cannot find this executable.
I have done a COMPLETE installation of Oracle Application Developer.
Any suggestions ?

The document is wrong, there is no Forms runtime in 9i - it is only
running in web.
If you need to design for c/s, you have to use Forms 6i.

Waiting orcle developer forms runtime web ... long

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