Wake On LAN vs PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics

Hi all,
I'm trying to wake up my Sawtooth using almost all the available utility (via cli or gui) to send the magic packet.... maybe the Sawtooth just doesn't support this feature: can somebody confirm my hypothesis?
Thanks in advances

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