Wallstreet and os9

Hi all, i just got a PB G3 Wallstreet 233, and i had swapped out the HD and RAM, i go to boot up the OS 9 cd to install OS 9.0.1, and it says that i cant install when i try to start the macos install.app. Was wondering if there is any suggestions that can help me get os 9, so i can use xpostfacto to install tiger...thanks for the help in advance!!

Vilem,
I am a little unclear on two points:
- You mentioned using two 512MB memory modules; the Wallstreet (and also early iMac and Lombard) can run only a maximum of 512MB (2x256MB) plus the 256MB modules are a different architecture than generic 256s that meet all the specs. Here is one company that sells this specific memory:
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/iBooks-PowerBooks/G3-Lombard/
- Since you have just purchased the Wallstreet, are you aware of the OSX partitioning requirement of HDs larger than 8GB on the Wallstreet?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106235
- You are apparently using a machine-specific OS9 CD since it is version 9.0.1 which was never a general-release version. In addition, since it is pre-OS 9.1, it will not boot the Wallstreet.
- If you want to install Tiger via XPostFacto, you can in fact install just Jag/10.2 or Panther/10.3, install XPostFacto, then install Tiger...no need to install 9.x if you have 10.2/.3 already installed.
"Runs on Mac OS 9.x or 10.2 through 10.4"
http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/
I hope you have either Tiger CDs or a DVD-ROM drive for the Tiger DVD. I had neither so I installed 10.4 on my Wallstreet by removing the HD and using a FireWire enclosure connected to my iBook; you still need to install XPostFacto with Tiger since XPostFacto modifies some files so Tiger will boot.

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